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Nouthetic counseling: Having peace of mind or giving piece of mind
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1. Nouthetic counseling: Having peace of mind or giving piece of mind
Verse route2 Thessalonians 3:15 Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother. [kjv]
Verse route… νουθετειτε … [gnt]

In English, there is a big difference between "having peace of mind" and "giving piece of mind".

Nouthetic counseling is based on the Greek word for "admonish" which means, literally, a "piece of mind" and not "peace of mind".
2. Never mind the understanding of the mind
Verse routeRevelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. [kjv]
Verse route… σοφια … νουν … [gnt]

The modern Greek word "νους" (nus) ≈ "mind" is from the ancient Greek word "νοῦς" ≈ "mind" as in reason and understanding and is a contracted form of the ancient Greek word "νόος" ≈ "mind".

The most well-known use of this word for "mind" as in "understanding" in the GNT (Greek New Testament) is in Revelation 13:18 in connection with the number 666. John is giving some "wisdom" for those who have "understanding".

Aristotle used the term "νόος" as different from perception or reason and having to do with understanding. The English philosophical term "nous" (1600's) is somewhat similar to intelligence or intellect.
3. Reflexive understanding
A reflexive or recursive application of the mind to itself is that of the mind studying the mind.
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4. Revelation 13:18
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KJV: Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Greek: ωδε η σοφια εστιν ο εχων τον νουν ψηφισατω τον αριθμον του θηριου αριθμος γαρ ανθρωπου εστιν και ο αριθμος αυτου χξς εξακοσιοι εξηκοντα εξ
Latin: hic sapientia est qui habet intellectum conputet numerum bestiae numerus enim hominis est et numerus eius est sescenti sexaginta sex
Wycliffe: Here is wisdom; he that hath vndurstonding, acounte the noumbre of the beeste; for it is the noumbre of man, and his noumbre is sixe hundrid sixti and sixe.
Tyndale: Here is wisdome. Let him that hath wytt count the nombre of the beest. For it is the nombre of a man and his nombre is sixe hondred threscore and sixe.
Luther: Hier ist Weisheit. Wer Verstand hat, der überlege die Zahl des Tieres; denn es ist eines Menschen Zahl, und seine Zahl ist sechshundert und sechsundsechzig.
5. 666
The most famous use of the "digamma" as "Ϝ" or "ϝ" (or "stigma" as "Ϛ" or "ς") is in the "666", the number of the beast, at the end of Revelation 13.
6. Strongs - mind
Strongs definitions:
7. Strongs - understanding
Strongs definitions:
8. Admonish
The ancient Greek word "νουθετέω" ≈ "admonish, warn, exhort" and comes from two Greek words.
9. Greek
The modern Greek word "νουθετώ" (nu-theh-TO) ≈ "admonish, preach, sermonize".
10. Nouthetic counseling
Nouthetic counseling is named from the ancient Greek word "νουθετέω" ≈ "admonish".
From Wikipedia.
11. Institute
Logo: Institute for Nouthetic StudiesThe web site for the Institute for Nouthetic Studies is at https://nouthetic.org/. The "About" page starts with the following.
12. Acts 20:31
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KJV: Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.
Greek: διο γρηγορειτε μνημονευοντες οτι τριετιαν νυκτα και ημεραν ουκ επαυσαμην μετα δακρυων νουθετων ενα εκαστον
13. Strongs - warn, admonish
Strongs definitions:
14. Romans 15:14
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KJV: And I myself also am persuaded of you, my brethren, that ye also are full of goodness, filled with all knowledge, able also to admonish one another.
Greek: πεπεισμαι δε αδελφοι μου και αυτος εγω περι υμων οτι και αυτοι μεστοι εστε αγαθωσυνης πεπληρωμενοι πασης της γνωσεως δυναμενοι και αλληλους νουθετειν
Latin: certus sum autem fratres mei et ego ipse de vobis quoniam et ipsi pleni estis dilectione repleti omni scientia ita ut possitis alterutrum monere
Spanish: Y también yo mismo tengo confianza de vosotros, hermanos míos, que también vosotros estáis llenos de bondad, llenos de todo conocimiento, de manera que podéis amonestaros los unos a los otros.
15. 2 Thessalonians 3:15
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KJV: Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.
Greek: και μη ως εχθρον ηγεισθε αλλα νουθετειτε ως αδελφον
Latin: et nolite quasi inimicum existimare sed corripite ut fratrem
16. Job 4:3
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KJV: Behold, thou hast instructed many, and thou hast strengthened the weak hands.
Hebrew: הנה יסרת רבים וידים רפות תחזק׃
Greek: ει γαρ συ ενουθετησας πολλους και χειρας ασθενους παρεκαλεσας
Brenton: For whereas you have instructed many, and have strengthened the hands of the weak one,
Latin: ecce docuisti multos et manus lassas roborasti
17. Job 5:17
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KJV: Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty:
Hebrew: הנה אשרי אנוש יוכחנו אלוה ומוסר שדי אל תמאס׃
Greek: μακαριος δε ανθρωπος ον ηλεγξεν ο κυριος νουθετημα δε παντοκρατορος μη απαναινου
Brenton: But blessed is the man whom the Lord has reproved; and reject not you the chastening of the Almighty.
18. Job 34:16
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KJV: If now thou hast understanding, hear this: hearken to the voice of my words.
Hebrew: ואם בינה שמעה זאת האזינה לקול מלי׃
Greek: ει δε μη νουθετη ακουε ταυτα ενωτιζου φωνην ρηματων
Brenton: Take heed lest he rebuke you: hear this, listen to the voice of words.
19. Job 37:14
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KJV: Hearken unto this, O Job: stand still, and consider the wondrous works of God.
Hebrew: האזינה זאת איוב עמד והתבונן נפלאות אל׃
Greek: ενωτιζου ταυτα ιωβ στηθι νουθετου δυναμιν κυριου
Brenton: Listen to this, O Job: stand still, and be admonished of the power of the Lord.
20. Proverbs 2:2
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KJV: So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to understanding;
Hebrew: להקשיב לחכמה אזנך תטה לבך לתבונה׃
Greek: υπακουσεται σοφιας το ους σου και παραβαλεις καρδιαν σου εις συνεσιν παραβαλεις δε αυτην επι νουθετησιν τω υιω σου

21. A reproof on the use of the word reproof
Verse route2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: [kjv]
Verse routeπασα γραφη θεοπνευστος και ωφελιμος … διδασκαλιαν … ελεγμον … επανορθωσιν … παιδειαν … δικαιοσυνη [gnt]
Verse routeomnis scriptura divinitus inspirata et … docendum … arguendum … corrigendum … erudiendum … iustitia [v]

No! No! No!!Many people assume that all scripture is good for "reproof" as in good for "admonishing" someone.
The Greek word translated as "reproof" meant more of an "argument of disproof" as in nicely showing someone the error in their reasoning using "evidence". The Latin Vulgate word is "argumentum" ≈ "argument, evidence, proof",
Verse routeAll scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: [kjv]

Which translation is more open to deception, wandering off-track, improper inferences, etc.? A security analysis looks at how an assumed meaning can be exploited by some for their own advantage.

The KJV (King James Version) and Latin contain the "and". However, the Greek word for "and" is not present in some early Greek manuscripts which changes the meaning of the words. New Testament text and translation commentary. p. 676. Phillip W. Comfort. Tyndale House Publishers. 2008. In such cases, one should investigate the implications for both possibilities and make decisions accordingly.
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22. Repent
Another Greek word that uses the Greek word for "mind" is "repent".
23. Think after what you heard and repent
Wictionary entry for perceive afterwardsOne can compare "mindful" with the Greek word for "repent" which literally means "after thought" as in "perceiving afterwards". The ancient Greek word "μετάνοια" ≈ "afterthought, repent".

That is, a "transition" from what one was thinking "before" to what one is thinking "after".
The definition in modern Greek has narrowed, from influence of GNT translation, to "μετάνοια" (meh-TA-nee-a) ≈ "repentance" (in the Latin sense).

If you already know that "repent" in Greek means "after thought" then, well, "never mind".

Note: The first definition is that of "afterthought". The second is that of "repentance" but this comes from the GNT.
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