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God and the universe
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1. God and the universe
UniverseLet us consider the universe to be everything in time and space as we know it.

Science has to do with the universe of space and time as we know it.

2. Is there a Creator God?
The first question is "Is there a Creator God?". That is, is there a God who has created everything in time and space as we know it?

If one does not believe that there is a Creator God, then the following will not make sense. One should then investigate how the existence of (coded) information proves (with probability approaching certainty) requires the existence of a Creator God. (for a later discussion)

Assume that one recognizes that there is a Creator God. What then might be the next obvious question?

3. The next question
God inside the universeIs God inside the universe?

If so, then who created God? Attributing life to space aliens does not move the problem outside of space and time.

4. The next question
So, the next question to ask someone who believes in a Creator God is whether their God is inside of space and time or outside of space and time.

5. Isaiah 57:15
   Isaiah 57:15 
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KJV: For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.
Hebrew: כי כה אמר רם ונשא שכן עד וקדוש שמו מרום וקדוש אשכון ואת דכא ושפל רוח להחיות רוח שפלים ולהחיות לב נדכאים׃
Greek: ταδε λεγει κυριος ο υψιστος ο εν υψηλοις κατοικων τον αιωνα αγιος εν αγιοις ονομα αυτω κυριος υψιστος εν αγιοις αναπαυομενος και ολιγοψυχοις διδους μακροθυμιαν και διδους ζωην τοις συντετριμμενοις την καρδιαν

6. The next question
God outside the universeIs God outside the universe? To see this, one must think outside the box.

Can the universe disappear? What might transcend the universe (and science)?

7. 2 Peter 3:10
   2 Peter 3:10 
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KJV: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Greek: ηξει δε η ημερα κυριου ως κλεπτης εν νυκτι εν η οι ουρανοι ροιζηδον παρελευσονται στοιχεια δε καυσουμενα λυθησονται λυθησεται και γη και τα εν αυτη εργα κατακαησεται ευρεθησεται

8. Science and information
Information and scienceScience is part of the universe.

Information (as in coded information) transcends the universe.

9. Matthew 24:35
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KJV: Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
Greek: ο ουρανος και η γη παρελευσονται παρελευσεται οι δε λογοι μου ου μη παρελθωσιν
Latin: caelum et terra transibunt verba vero mea non praeteribunt
Russian: небо и земля прейдут, но слова Мои не прейдут.
Are there potential issues in the Bible that appear to be science, but can be resolved using information that transcends science?

Let us look mention one example.

10. Matthew 13: Third kingdom parable: mustard seeds and trees
Verse routeMatthew 13:31 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field: [kjv]
Verse route13:32 Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof. [kjv]

Tree with twigs - no fruit
The "mustard seed" :
The "birds" do not (usually) nest in small bushes. Are the "birds" good? What is a "mustard seed"? What does a "tree" represent?
Information sign More: Matthew 13: Third kingdom parable: mustard seeds and trees

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