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Have you heard of the herd of swine? Did they sea it?
1. Have you heard of the herd of swine? Did they sea it?
Swine are mentioned a few times in the Bible.
How is a pig related to a porpoise?
2. Porpoise as a pig fish
A "
porpoise" appears to be a variation of a dolphin, though most claim them as distinct species. Would anyone be upset if I called a porpoise a "
pig-fish" since it has a snout like a pig? What about a "
sea hog"?
The word "
porpoise" comes from the Old French "
porpais" which means, through Latin, literally, "
pig fish".
The Latin word "porcus" ≈ "pig" from which we get the English word "pork".
The Latin word "piscis" ≈ "fish". One of the 12 Zodiac signs is "Pisces", the fish.
The modern Greek word "γουρουνόψαρο" (ghu-ru-NO-psa-ro) ≈ "porpoise".
The modern Greek word "γουρούνι" (ghu-RU-nee) ≈ "hog, pig" which originates from the (perceived) sound made by a pig.
The modern Greek word "ψάρι" (PSA-ree) ≈ "fish"
The French word appears to have come from the Germanic "
mere-swin" or "
sea hog" (swine).
3. Commitment and contribution
There is a difference between a commitment and a contribution. Consider the bacon and egg breakfast:
The chicken makes a contribution (an egg).
The pig makes a commitment (some bacon or ham).
4. Matthew 8:27 Winds and the sea obey
The context is immediately after Jesus calms the wind and storms on the sea to save the disciples in the boat, and into which the swine will soon find their destruction.
Matthew 8:27 But the men marvelled, saying, What manner of man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey him! [kjv]
οι δε ανθρωποι εθαυμασαν λεγοντες ποταπος εστιν ουτος οτι και οι ανεμοι και η θαλασσα αυτω υπακουουσιν [gnt]
After this verse, the story or parable of the herd of "
swine" appears in Matthew 8. Mark 5 and Luke 8 have similar stories. Do the winds obey man?
5. Benjamin Franklin and his bamboo cane
The context is immediately after Jesus calms the wind and storms on the sea to save the disciples in the boat, and into which the swine will soon find their destruction.
Benjamin Franklin (American scientist, inventor, philosopher, statesman) had a bamboo cane with a hidden trigger and hollow body that he could use to dispense oil that would "
calm" water in front of him to impress other people with that ability.
6. Matthew 8:27
KJV: But the men marvelled, saying, What manner of man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey him!
Greek: οι δε ανθρωποι εθαυμασαν λεγοντες ποταπος εστιν ουτος οτι και οι ανεμοι και η θαλασσα αυτω υπακουουσιν αυτω
7. Matthew 8:28-29
Matthew 8:28 And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way. [kjv]
8:29 And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time? [kjv]
There are two men that are possessed.
It is not clear how many demons were in them.
8. Matthew 8:28
KJV: And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way.
Greek: και ελθοντι αυτω ελθοντος αυτου εις το περαν εις την χωραν των γεργεσηνων γαδαρηνων υπηντησαν αυτω δυο δαιμονιζομενοι εκ των μνημειων εξερχομενοι χαλεποι λιαν ωστε μη ισχυειν τινα παρελθειν δια της οδου εκεινης
9. Matthew 8:29
KJV: And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?
Greek: και ιδου εκραξαν λεγοντες τι ημιν και σοι ιησου υιε του θεου ηλθες ωδε προ καιρου βασανισαι ημας
10. Matthew 8:30
Matthew 8:30 And there was a good way off from them an herd of many swine feeding. [kjv]
There appears to be a time in the future, known by the demons, when they will be tormented. When might that be?
11. Matthew 8:30
KJV: And there was a good way off from them an herd of many swine feeding.
Greek: ην δε μακραν απ αυτων αγελη χοιρων πολλων βοσκομενη
Latin: erat autem non longe ab illis grex porcorum multorum pascens
Wycliffe: And not fer fro hem was a flocke of many swyne lesewynge.
Tyndale: And ther was a good waye of fro them a greate heerd of swyne fedinge.
Luther: Es war aber ferne von ihnen eine große Herde Säue an der Weide.
12. Strongs - swine
- *G5300 *1 ὗς (hoos) : apparently a primary word; a hog ("swine"):--sow.
- υς
- 2 Peter 2:22 ... vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
- *G5519 *12 χοῖρος (khoy'-ros) : of uncertain derivation; a hog:--swine.
- χοιρων *6
- Matthew 7:6 ... your pearls before swine, lest they trample them ...
- Matthew 8:30 ... them an herd of many swine feeding.
- Matthew 8:31 ... to go away into the herd of swine.
- Mark 5:11 ... a great herd of swine feeding.
- Mark 5:16 ... to him that was possessed with the devil, and also concerning the swine.
- Luke 8:32 ... there an herd of many swine feeding on the mountain: ...
- χοιρους *5
- Matthew 8:32 ... into the herd of swine: and, behold, the whole herd of swine ran violently down ...
- Mark 5:12 ... Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them.
- Mark 5:13 ... went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently ...
- Luke 8:33 ... the man, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently ...
- Luke 15:15 ... his fields to feed swine.
- χοιροι
- Luke 15:16 ... with the husks that the swine did eat: and no man ...
13. Usage - swine
*G5300 *1 ὗς (hoos) : apparently a primary word; a hog ("swine"):--sow.
*G5519 *12 χοῖρος (khoy'-ros) : of uncertain derivation; a hog:--swine.
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Words: υς χοιροι χοιρους=5 χοιρων=6
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The ancient Greek word
"αγελη" ≈ "herd, flock" as in a group of animals. In Greek, the same word is used for both "
herd" and "
flock". Wycliffe uses the phrase "
flocke of many swyne".
The Latin word "grex" ≈ "herd" and is related to the ancient Greek word "αγείρω" ≈ "gather, collect".
14. Strongs - herd
- *G34 *7 ἀγέλη (ag-el'-ay) : from G71 (compare G32); a drove:--herd.
- αγελη *6
- Matthew 8:30 ... a good way off from them an herd of many swine feeding.
- Matthew 8:32 ... they went into the herd of swine: and, behold, the whole herd of swine ran violently ...
- Mark 5:11 ... nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding.
- Mark 5:13 ... into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place ...
- Luke 8:32 And there was there an herd of many swine feeding ...
- Luke 8:33 ... into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place ...
- αγελην
- Matthew 8:31 ... us to go away into the herd of swine.
15. Usage - herd
*G34 *7 ἀγέλη (ag-el'-ay) : from G71 (compare G32); a drove:--herd.
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Words: αγελη=6 αγελην
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16. Demons
Matthew 8:31 So the devils besought him, saying, If thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine. [kjv]
οι δε δαιμονες παρεκαλουν αυτον λεγοντες ει εκβαλλεις ημας αποστειλον ημας εις την αγελην των χοιρων [gnt]
For some reason, when the demons are thrown out of the man by Jesus, they seek some embodiment in other living beings, such as the herd of swine.
17. Matthew 8:31
KJV: So the devils besought him, saying, If thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine.
Greek: οι δε δαιμονες παρεκαλουν αυτον λεγοντες ει εκβαλλεις ημας επιτρεψον ημιν απελθειν αποστειλον ημας εις την αγελην των χοιρων
Latin: daemones autem rogabant eum dicentes si eicis nos mitte nos in gregem porcorum
Wessex: þa deofle soðlice hine baeden þus cweðende. gif þu us ut-adrifst äsend us on þas swina heordan.
Wycliffe: And the deuelis preyeden hym, and seiden, If thou castist out vs fro hennes, sende vs in to the droue of swyne.
Tyndale: Then ye devyles besought him sayinge: if thou cast vs out suffre vs to go oure waye in to the heerd of swyne.
Luther: Da baten ihn die Teufel und sprachen: Willst du uns austreiben, so erlaube uns, in die Herde Säue zu fahren.
18. Devil
19. Accuser
20. Demon
21. Strongs - demon
- *G1142 *1 δαίμων (dah'-ee-mown) : from daio (to distribute fortunes); a dæmon or supernatural spirit (of a bad nature):--devil.
- δαιμονες
- Matthew 8:31 So the devils besought him, saying, If ...
22. Usage - demon
*G1142 *1 δαίμων (dah'-ee-mown) : from daio (to distribute fortunes); a dæmon or supernatural spirit (of a bad nature):--devil.
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Words: δαιμονες
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23. Matthew 8:32 Herd of swine
Matthew 8:32 And he said unto them, Go. And when they were come out, they went into the herd of swine: and, behold, the whole herd of swine ran violently down a steep place into the sea, and perished in the waters. [kjv]
και ειπεν αυτοις υπαγετε οι δε εξελθοντες απηλθαν εις τους χοιρους και ιδου ωρμησεν πασα η αγελη κατα του κρημνου εις την θαλασσαν και απεθανον εν τοις υδασιν [gnt]
The above situation can be depicted with a diagram.
The "
devil" or "
demon" leads the "
swine" to the "
water" into which they "
perish".
Perhaps the "
swine" thought they were being "
suffocated" living on land and breathing air and wanted to return to being "
fish".
It is not clear whether the "
demons" were sufficient to be a one-for-one matching with the pigs in the herd. or whether they went into selected swine in the herd.
24. Matthew 8:32
KJV: And he said unto them, Go. And when they were come out, they went into the herd of swine: and, behold, the whole herd of swine ran violently down a steep place into the sea, and perished in the waters.
Greek: και ειπεν αυτοις υπαγετε οι δε εξελθοντες απηλθον απηλθαν εις την αγελην των χοιρων τους χοιρους και ιδου ωρμησεν πασα η αγελη των χοιρων κατα του κρημνου εις την θαλασσαν και απεθανον εν τοις υδασιν
Latin: et ait illis ite at illi exeuntes abierunt in porcos et ecce impetu abiit totus grex per praeceps in mare et mortui sunt in aquis
Wycliffe: And he seide to hem, Go ye. And thei yeden out, and wenten in to the swyne; and loo! in a greet bire al the droue wente heedlyng in to the see, and thei weren deed in the watris.
Tyndale: And he sayd vnto the: go youre wayes. Then wet they out and departed into ye heerd of swyne And beholde ye whoale heerd of swyne was caryed wt violence hedlinge in to the see and perisshed in ye water.
Luther: Und er sprach: Fahret hin! Da fuhren sie aus und fuhren in die Herde Säue. Und siehe, die ganze Herde Säue stürzete sich mit einem Sturm ins Meer und ersoffen im Wasser.
Slavonic: И рече им: идите. Они же изшедше идоша в стадо свиное: и се, (абие) устремися стадо все по брегу в море, и утопоша в водах.
Russian: И Он сказал им: идите. И они, выйдя, пошли в стадо свиное. И вот, все стадо свиней бросилось с крутизны в море и погибло в воде.
Spanish: Y Él les dijo: Id. Y ellos saliendo, se fueron a aquel hato de puercos; y he aquí, todo el hato de puercos se precipitó en el mar por un despeñadero, y perecieron en las aguas.
25. Strongs - sea
- *G2281 *91 θάλασσα (thal'-as-sah) : probably prolonged from G251; the sea (genitive case or specially):--sea.
- θαλασσαν *43
- Matthew 4:18 ... walking by the sea of Galilee, saw two brethren, Simon called Peter, and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea: for they were fishers.
- Matthew 8:32 ... down a steep place into the sea, and perished in the waters.
- Matthew 13:1 ... the house, and sat by the sea side.
- Matthew 13:47 ... a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of ...
- Matthew 14:25 ... them, walking on the sea.
- Matthew 15:29 ... from thence, and came nigh unto the sea of Galilee; and went up ...
- Matthew 17:27 ... them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and ...
- Matthew 21:21 ... and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done.
- Matthew 23:15 ... hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make ...
- Mark 1:16 Now as he walked by the sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and Andrew his brother casting a net into the sea: for they were fishers.
- Mark 2:13 And he went forth again by the sea side; and all the multitude ...
- Mark 3:7 ... his disciples to the sea: and a great multitude ...
- Mark 4:1 ... to teach by the sea side: and there was gathered unto him a great multitude, so that he entered into a ship, and sat in the sea; and the ...
- Mark 5:13 ... a steep place into the sea, ( they were about two thousand;) and were choked in the sea.
- Mark 5:21 ... and he was nigh unto the sea.
- Mark 7:31 ... Sidon, he came unto the sea of Galilee, through the midst ...
- Mark 9:42 ... and he were cast into the sea.
- Mark 11:23 ... and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not ...
- Luke 17:2 ... and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend ...
- John 6:16 ... disciples went down unto the sea,
- John 21:7 ... did cast himself into the sea.
- Acts 4:24 ... and earth, and the sea, and all that ...
- Acts 10:6 ... house is by the sea side: he shall tell thee ...
- Acts 10:32 ... one Simon a tanner by the sea side: who, when he cometh, shall speak unto thee.
- Acts 14:15 ... and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein:
- Acts 17:14 ... to go as it were to the sea: but Silas and ...
- Acts 27:30 ... they had let down the boat into the sea, under colour as though they would ...
- Acts 27:38 ... and cast out the wheat into the sea.
- Acts 27:40 ... the anchors, they committed themselves unto the sea, and loosed the rudder ...
- Hebrews 11:29 By faith they passed through the Red sea as by ...
- Revelation 7:2 ... to hurt the earth and the sea,
- Revelation 7:3 ... not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till ...
- Revelation 8:8 ... was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;
- Revelation 10:6 ... the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, ...
- Revelation 12:12 ... to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down ...
- Revelation 14:7 ... earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
- Revelation 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having ...
- Revelation 16:3 ... vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.
- Revelation 18:17 ... and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,
- Revelation 18:21 ... and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence ...
- θαλασσης *30
- Matthew 4:15 ... the land of Nephthalim, by the way of the sea, beyond Jordan, Galilee of the Gentiles;
- Matthew 14:24 ... was now in the midst of the sea, tossed with waves: ...
- Matthew 14:26 ... him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, It is ...
- Matthew 18:6 ... that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
- Mark 5:1 And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes.
- Mark 6:47 ... was in the midst of the sea, and he alone ...
- Mark 6:48 ... them, walking upon the sea, and would have passed by them.
- Mark 6:49 ... him walking upon the sea, they supposed it had been a spirit, ...
- Luke 21:25 ... of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
- John 6:1 ... Jesus went over the sea of Galilee, which is the sea of Tiberias.
- John 6:17 ... a ship, and went over the sea toward Capernaum. And ...
- John 6:19 ... Jesus walking on the sea, and drawing nigh ...
- John 6:22 The day following, when the people which stood on the other side of the sea saw that there was ...
- John 6:25 And when they had found him on the other side of the sea, they said unto him, Rabbi, ...
- John 21:1 ... again to the disciples at the sea of Tiberias; and on this wise shewed he himself.
- Acts 28:4 ... whom, though he hath escaped the sea, yet vengeance suffereth not to live.
- Romans 9:27 ... be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:
- 1 Corinthians 10:1 ... all passed through the sea;
- Hebrews 11:12 ... which is by the sea shore innumerable.
- James 1:6 ... he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
- Jude 1:13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; ...
- Revelation 5:13 ... such as are in the sea, and all that are in ...
- Revelation 7:1 ... the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
- Revelation 8:8 ... was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;
- Revelation 10:2 ... right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth,
- Revelation 10:5 ... I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth ...
- Revelation 10:8 ... which standeth upon the sea and upon the earth.
- Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and ...
- Revelation 13:1 ... upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven ...
- Revelation 20:8 ... of whom is as the sand of the sea.
- θαλασση *13
- Matthew 8:24 ... a great tempest in the sea, insomuch that the ship was covered ...
- Matthew 8:26 ... and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm.
- Mark 1:16 Now as he walked by the sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and Andrew his brother casting a net into the sea: for they were fishers.
- Mark 4:1 ... to teach by the sea side: and there was gathered unto him a great multitude, so that he entered into a ship, and sat in the sea; and the ...
- Mark 4:39 ... the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And ...
- Mark 5:13 ... a steep place into the sea, ( they were about two thousand;) and were choked in the sea.
- Luke 17:6 ... and be thou planted in the sea; and it should obey you.
- Acts 7:36 ... and in the Red sea, and in ...
- 1 Corinthians 10:2 ... the cloud and in the sea;
- 2 Corinthians 11:26 ... the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren;
- Revelation 8:9 ... of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; ...
- Revelation 16:3 ... vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.
- Revelation 18:19 ... that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! ...
- θαλασσα *6
- Matthew 8:27 ... even the winds and the sea obey him!
- Mark 4:41 ... even the wind and the sea obey him?
- John 6:18 And the sea arose by reason of a great wind that blew.
- Revelation 4:6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: ...
- Revelation 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; ...
- Revelation 21:1 ... there was no more sea.
26. Usage - sea
*G2281 *91 θάλασσα (thal'-as-sah) : probably prolonged from G251; the sea (genitive case or specially):--sea.
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Words: θαλασσα=6 θαλασσαν=43 θαλασση=13 θαλασσης=30
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27. Exodus 15:1
Exodus 15:1 Then sang Moses and the children of Israel this song unto the LORD, and spake, saying, I will sing unto the LORD, for he hath triumphed gloriously: the horse and his rider hath he thrown into the sea. [kjv]
Can an analogy be made to the destruction of the soldiers in the crossing of the Red Sea by Moses and the Israelites?
Pharaoh is related to the demons as in request or order.
The soldiers (horses and riders) are related to the swine.
The sea or water is destruction for both.
This event is commemorated by a song n Exodus.
28. Exodus 15:1
KJV: Then sang Moses and the children of Israel this song unto the LORD, and spake, saying, I will sing unto the LORD, for he hath triumphed gloriously: the horse and his rider hath he thrown into the sea.
Hebrew: אז ישיר משה ובני ישראל את השירה הזאת ליהוה ויאמרו לאמר אשירה ליהוה כי גאה גאה סוס ורכבו רמה בים׃
Greek: τοτε ησεν μωυσης και οι υιοι ισραηλ την ωδην ταυτην τω θεω και ειπαν λεγοντες ασωμεν τω κυριω ενδοξως γαρ δεδοξασται ιππον και αναβατην ερριψεν εις θαλασσαν
Note that the song talks about being "
thrown into the sea" but the story itself has the horses and riders going into the sea which then beats on them to their destruction.
The analogy is somewhat similar to the parable of the house built on sand where the water (not a flood) beats on the house (human organization of horses and riders).
29. Genesis 49:17 Horse and rider
30. Genesis 49:17
KJV: Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward.
Hebrew: יהי דן נחש עלי דרך שפיפן עלי ארח הנשך עקבי סוס ויפל רכבו אחור׃
Greek: και γενηθητω δαν οφις εφ οδου εγκαθημενος επι τριβου δακνων πτερναν ιππου και πεσειται ο ιππευς εις τα οπισω
31. Further analogy
Can a further analogy be made with wolves, or a wolf as in a werewolf, and sheep?
32. Matthew 7:15
Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. [kjv]
προσεχετε απο των ψευδοπροφητων οιτινες ερχονται προς υμας εν ενδυμασιν προβατων εσωθεν δε εισιν λυκοι αρπαγες [gnt]
… ovium … lupi … [v]
33. Matthew 7:15
KJV: Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Greek: προσεχετε δε απο των ψευδοπροφητων οιτινες ερχονται προς υμας εν ενδυμασιν προβατων εσωθεν δε εισιν λυκοι αρπαγες
Latin: adtendite a falsis prophetis qui veniunt ad vos in vestimentis ovium intrinsecus autem sunt lupi rapaces
Wycliffe: Be ye war of fals prophetis, that comen to you in clothingis of scheep, but withynneforth thei ben as wolues of raueyn;
34. Acts 20:29
Acts 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. [kjv]
εγω οιδα οτι εισελευσονται μετα την αφιξιν μου λυκοι βαρεις εις υμας μη φειδομενοι του ποιμνιου [gnt]
… lupi … gregi [v]
35. Acts 20:29
KJV: For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Greek: εγω γαρ οιδα τουτο οτι εισελευσονται μετα την αφιξιν μου λυκοι βαρεις εις υμας μη φειδομενοι του ποιμνιου
Latin: ego scio quoniam intrabunt post discessionem meam lupi graves in vos non parcentes gregi
36. Destruction
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