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A grape way to whine about wine
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1. A grape way to whine about wine
Verse routeMark 15:23 And they gave him to drink wine mingled with myrrh: but he received it not. [kjv]
Verse routeκαι εδιδουν αυτω εσμυρνισμενον οινον ος δε ουκ ελαβεν [gnt]

Grape cliusterA common use of grapes, that grow on a vine, is to make wine.

Wine can be made from many types of fruit. When I was growing up, a wayfaring person near our farm used to make dandelion wine.

At the crucifixion, Jesus is provided wine to drink, but he did not receive it.

2. Mark 15:23
   Mark 15:23 
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KJV: And they gave him to drink wine mingled with myrrh: but he received it not.
Greek: και εδιδουν αυτω πιειν εσμυρνισμενον οινον οος δε ουκ ελαβεν
Latin: et dabant ei bibere murratum vinum et non accepit
Wessex: & sealden him ge-bytered win & he hit ne on-feng.
Wycliffe: And thei yauen to hym to drynke wyn meddlid with mirre, and he took not.
Tyndale: and they gave him to drinke wyne myngled with myrte but he receaved it not.
Gothic: jah gebun imma drigkan wein mith smwrna; ith is ni nam.
Luther: Und sie gaben ihm Myrrhen im Wein zu trinken; und er nahm's nicht zu sich.
Slavonic: И даяху Ему пити есмирнисмено вино: Он же не прият.
Russian: И давали Ему пить вино со смирною; но Он не принял.
Spanish: Y le dieron a beber vino mezclado con mirra; masÉl no lo tomó.
Portuguese: Queriam dar-lhe vinho misturado com mirra, mas Ele não quis beber.

3. Strongs - wine

4. Usage - wine
*G3631 *34 οἶνος (oy'-nos) : a primary word (or perhaps of Hebrew origin (3196)); "wine" (literally or figuratively):--wine.
Word usage per chapter Words: οινον=18 οινος=6 οινου=6 οινω=4


5. Etymology
The English word "wine", and words for wine in many other languages, come from the PIE (Proto Indo-European) root "WOYHNOM""wine, vine". Many words for "wine" in many languages are related to the corresponding word for "vine".

6. Wine
The older ancient Greek word "Ϝοῖνος""wine" (using the digamma with the "v" sound). The ancient Greek word for "wine" originally had a beginning letter of the digamma «Ϝ» that had the sound of a English "w" or "v" so that «οίνος» was «Ϝοινος» and pronounced more like the English "wine" or the German "Wein" ("v" sound at the beginning).

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7. Latin
Verse routeMark 15:23 And they gave him to drink wine mingled with myrrh: but he received it not. [kjv]
Verse routeκαι εδιδουν αυτω εσμυρνισμενον οινον ος δε ουκ ελαβεν [gnt]
Verse routevinum … [v]
Verse routevino … [es]
Verse routevinho … [por]


8. Russian
Verse routeMark 15:23 And they gave him to drink wine mingled with myrrh: but he received it not. [kjv]
Verse routeκαι εδιδουν αυτω εσμυρνισμενον οινον ος δε ουκ ελαβεν [gnt]
Verse routeвино … [rus]
Verse routeвино… [ocs]

The Russian word for "vodka" comes from the Russian ward for "water".

9. Diagram
Linguistic diagram of wine

10. Genesis 9:21 Noah and wine
Verse routeGenesis 9:21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent. [kjv]
Verse routeהיין … [he]
Verse routeκαι επιεν εκ του οινου και εμεθυσθη και εγυμνωθη εν τω οικω αυτου [lxx]

*H3196 יַיִן (yah'-yin) : from an unused root meaning to effervesce; wine (as fermented); by implication, intoxication:--banqueting, wine, wine(-bibber).
היין - wine The Hebrew word "היין" (yayin) ≈ "wine". The Hebrew word for wine is related to the word for wine many languages.

After the flood, Noah grows a vineyard, makes wine and gets drunk.

It appears that Noah was "perfect" in his generation, as far being complete as having a clean gene pool, but was not what we today call "perfect" as in without imperfection.

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11. Genesis 9:21
   Genesis 9:21 
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KJV: And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
Hebrew: וישת מן היין וישכר ויתגל בתוך אהלה׃
Greek: και επιεν εκ του οινου και εμεθυσθη και εγυμνωθη εν τω οικω αυτου
Latin: bibensque vinum inebriatus est et nudatus in tabernaculo suo
Wycliffe: and he drank wyn, and was drunkun; and he was nakid, and lay in his tabernacle.
Tyndale: and drancke of the wyne and was droncke and laye vncouered in the myddest of his tet.
Luther: Und da er des Weins trank, ward er trunken und lag in der Hütte aufgedeckt.
Slavonic: и испи от вина, и упися, и обнажися в дому своем.
Russian: и выпил он вина, и опьянел, и лежал обнаженным в шатре своем.
Spanish: Y bebió del vino, y se embriagó, y estaba descubierto en medio de su tienda.

12. John 2:10 Water into wine
Verse routeJohn 2:10 And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now. [kjv]
Verse routeκαι λεγει αυτω πας ανθρωπος πρωτον τον καλον οινον τιθησιν και οταν μεθυσθωσιν τον ελασσω συ τετηρηκας τον καλον οινον εως αρτι [gnt]

Jesus turns water into wine at Cana in John 2.

13. John 2:10
   John 2:10 
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KJV: And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.
Greek: και λεγει αυτω πας ανθρωπος πρωτον τον καλον οινον τιθησιν και οταν μεθυσθωσιν τοτε τον ελασσω συ τετηρηκας τον καλον οινον εως αρτι
Latin: et dicit ei omnis homo primum bonum vinum ponit et cum inebriati fuerint tunc id quod deterius est tu servasti bonum vinum usque adhuc
Wessex: & cwaeð to hym; aelc man sylð aerest god win. & þonne hyo drunkene beoð. þaet þe wyrse beoð. Ðu þe ge-heolde þaet gode win oð þys.

14. Matthew 26:29 Fruit of the vine
Verse routeMatthew 26:29 But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom. [kjv]
Verse routeλεγω δε υμιν ου μη πιω απ αρτι εκ τουτου του γενηματος της αμπελου εως της ημερας εκεινης οταν αυτο πινω μεθ υμων καινον εν τη βασιλεια του πατρος μου [gnt]

At the last supper, Jesus talks of drinking the fruit of the vine. At that time, spring during Passover, any wine, leftover from the Fall before, would have been somewhat fermented.

Perhaps this statement at the Last Supper is why Jesus refused the offer of wine (and myrrh to lessen the pain) at the crucifixion.

The word that the KJV (King James Version) translates as "fruit" is not the usual word for fruit but "offspring".
*G1081 *9 γέννημα (ghen'-nay-mah) : from G1080; offspring; by analogy, produce (literally or figuratively):--fruit, generation.

15. Matthew 26:29
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KJV: But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.
Greek: λεγω δε υμιν οτι ου μη πιω απ αρτι εκ τουτου του γεννηματος γενηματος της αμπελου εως της ημερας εκεινης οταν αυτο πινω μεθ υμων καινον εν τη βασιλεια του πατρος μου
Wessex: Witodlice ic segge eow þt ic ne drinke heonen-forð of þisen eorðalice wine aer þam daige þe ic drinke þt neowe mid eow on mines faeder rice.

16. Strongs - offspring

17. Usage - offspring
*G1081 *9 γέννημα (ghen'-nay-mah) : from G1080; offspring; by analogy, produce (literally or figuratively):--fruit, generation.
Word usage per chapter Words: γενηματα=2 γενηματος=3 γεννηματα=4


18. Craters
Verse routeExodus 24:6 And Moses took half of the blood, and put it in basons; and half of the blood he sprinkled on the altar. [kjv]
Verse routeλαβων δε μωυσης το ημισυ του αιματος ενεχεεν εις κρατηρας το δε ημισυ του αιματος προσεχεεν προς το θυσιαστηριον [lxx]
Verse routecrateras … [v]

One problem with wine is that of overdoing it to excess. Natural wine does not become fermented as strong wine, but the Greeks (and others) had ways of doing this.

In ancient Greek, a «κρηταρα» was a basin or bowl, often used to mix wine and water so that, by evaporation or by adding water, one could make it either stronger or weaker. The modern Greek word "κρατήρας" (kra-TEE-ras) ≈ "crater".

Information sign More: Some comets about crater bowls

19. Exodus 24:6

   Exodus 24:6 
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KJV: And Moses took half of the blood, and put it in basons; and half of the blood he sprinkled on the altar.
Hebrew: ויקח משה חצי הדם וישם באגנת וחצי הדם זרק על המזבח׃
Greek: λαβων δε μωυσης το ημισυ του αιματος ενεχεεν εις κρατηρας το δε ημισυ του αιματος προσεχεεν προς το θυσιαστηριον
Latin: tulit itaque Moses dimidiam partem sanguinis et misit in crateras partem autem residuam fudit super altare

20. Exodus 25:31 Bowls
Verse routeExodus 25:31 And thou shalt make a candlestick of pure gold: of beaten work shall the candlestick be made: his shaft, and his branches, his bowls, his knops, and his flowers, shall be of the same. [kjv]
Verse routeκαι ποιησεις λυχνιαν εκ χρυσιου καθαρου τορευτην ποιησεις την λυχνιαν ο καυλος αυτης και οι καλαμισκοι και οι κρατηρες και οι σφαιρωτηρες και τα κρινα εξ αυτης εσται [lxx]

Information sign More: Some comets about crater bowls

21. Exodus 25:31

   Exodus 25:31 
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KJV: And thou shalt make a candlestick of pure gold: of beaten work shall the candlestick be made: his shaft, and his branches, his bowls, his knops, and his flowers, shall be of the same.
Hebrew: ועשית מנרת זהב טהור מקשה תעשה המנורה ירכה וקנה גביעיה כפתריה ופרחיה ממנה יהיו׃
Greek: και ποιησεις λυχνιαν εκ χρυσιου καθαρου τορευτην ποιησεις την λυχνιαν ο καυλος αυτης και οι καλαμισκοι και οι κρατηρες και οι σφαιρωτηρες και τα κρινα εξ αυτης εσται

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