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Matthew 16: Basket cases
1. Matthew 14:20
KJV: And they did all eat, and were filled: and they took up of the fragments that remained twelve baskets full.
Greek: και εφαγον παντες και εχορτασθησαν και ηραν το περισσευον των κλασματων δωδεκα κοφινους πληρεις
Latin: et manducaverunt omnes et saturati sunt et tulerunt reliquias duodecim cofinos fragmentorum plenos
2. Matthew 15:37
KJV: And they did all eat, and were filled: and they took up of the broken meat that was left seven baskets full.
Greek: και εφαγον παντες και εχορτασθησαν και ηραν το περισσευον των κλασματων ηραν επτα σπυριδας σφυριδας πληρεις
Latin: et comederunt omnes et saturati sunt et quod superfuit de fragmentis tulerunt septem sportas plenas
3. Matthew 16: Basket cases
Matthew 14:20 And they did all eat, and were filled: and they took up of the fragments that remained twelve baskets full. [kjv]
και εφαγον παντες και εχορτασθησαν και ηραν το περισσευον των κλασματων δωδεκα κοφινους πληρεις [gnt]
15:37 And they did all eat, and were filled: and they took up of the broken meat that was left seven baskets full. [kjv]
και εφαγον παντες και εχορτασθησαν και το περισσευον των κλασματων ηραν επτα σφυριδας πληρεις [gnt]
A few years ago, a story went around and used by a number of pastors (I heard it more than once). The pastor would go to great effort to make a point that the "
baskets" in the original Greek in the (one) parable were small lunch-sized boxes using a word related to the English word
"coffin". They would go on to quote verses about not worrying about tomorrow and strongly hinting or saying that one should give the extra to the church (as tithe and offering).
4. Strongs - small basket
- *G2894 *6 κόφινος (kof'-ee-nos) : of uncertain derivation; a (small) basket:--basket.
- κοφινους *4
- Matthew 14:20 ... of the fragments that remained twelve baskets full.
- Matthew 16:9 ... of the five thousand, and how many baskets ye took up?
- Mark 8:19 ... among five thousand, how many baskets full of fragments took ye up? ...
- John 6:13 ... and filled twelve baskets with the fragments of the five ...
- κοφινων
- Mark 6:43 And they took up twelve baskets full of the fragments, and ...
- κοφινοι
- Luke 9:17 ... that remained to them twelve baskets.
5. Usage - small basket
6. Strongs - big basket
- *G4711 *5 σπυρίς (spoo-rece') : from G4687 (as woven); a hamper or lunch-receptacle:--basket.
- σπυριδας *3
- Matthew 15:37 ... of the broken meat that was left seven baskets full.
- Matthew 16:10 ... of the four thousand, and how many baskets ye took up?
- Mark 8:8 ... of the broken meat that was left seven baskets.
- σπυριδων
- Mark 8:20 ... among four thousand, how many baskets full of fragments took ye up? ...
- σπυριδι
- Acts 9:25 ... by the wall in a basket.
7. Usage - big basket
*G4711 *5 σπυρίς (spoo-rece') : from G4687 (as woven); a hamper or lunch-receptacle:--basket.
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Words: σπυριδας=3 σπυριδι σπυριδων
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The ancient Greek word
"σπυρίς" ≈ "large basket" often used for provisions or to transport money.
8. Baskets
The pastors would completely ignore the other parable where the word for basket in Greek means a big basket as the basket into which Paul was placed to lower him from a window and wall to escape those plotting to get him.
One could argue that the word for "baskets" in Matthew appears in different chapters.
The distinction between the baskets appears again in Matthew 15.
9. Matthew 16:9-10
Matthew 16:9 Do ye not yet understand, neither remember the five loaves of the five thousand, and how many baskets ye took up? [kjv]
ουπω νοειτε ουδε μνημονευετε τους πεντε αρτους των πεντακισχιλιων και ποσους κοφινους ελαβετε [gnt]
16:10 Neither the seven loaves of the four thousand, and how many baskets ye took up? [kjv]
ουδε τους επτα αρτους των τετρακισχιλιων και ποσας σφυριδας ελαβετε [gnt]
After the service, I asked one pastor what theological point was to be made between the two in that the big baskets were for a crowd of four thousand and the small baskets were for a crowd of five thousand.
He had no answer and seemed irritated that I had even asked.
The same pastors will often say that if you have a question, please ask, but, when asked, that appears to not be what they really meant.
10. Matthew 16:9
KJV: Do ye not yet understand, neither remember the five loaves of the five thousand, and how many baskets ye took up?
Greek: ουπω νοειτε ουδε μνημονευετε τους πεντε αρτους των πεντακισχιλιων και ποσους κοφινους ελαβετε
11. Matthew 16:10
KJV: Neither the seven loaves of the four thousand, and how many baskets ye took up?
Greek: ουδε τους επτα αρτους των τετρακισχιλιων και ποσας σπυριδας σφυριδας ελαβετε
12. Acts 9:24-25 Big basket
Acts 9:24 But their laying await was known of Saul. And they watched the gates day and night to kill him. [kjv]
εγνωσθη δε τω σαυλω η επιβουλη αυτων παρετηρουντο δε και τας πυλας ημερας τε και νυκτος οπως αυτον ανελωσιν [gnt]
9:25 Then the disciples took him by night, and let him down by the wall in a basket. [kjv]
λαβοντες δε οι μαθηται αυτου νυκτος δια του τειχους καθηκαν αυτον χαλασαντες εν σφυριδι [gnt]
The Greek word translated as "
kill" is more that of "
liquidate" or "
dissolve" him.
The Greek word translated as
"basket" is that of a big
"basket".
13. Acts 9:24
KJV: But their laying await was known of Saul. And they watched the gates day and night to kill him.
Greek: εγνωσθη δε τω σαυλω η επιβουλη αυτων παρετηρουν τε παρετηρουντο δε και τας πυλας ημερας τε και νυκτος οπως αυτον ανελωσιν
14. Acts 9:25
KJV: Then the disciples took him by night, and let him down by the wall in a basket.
Greek: λαβοντες δε αυτον οι μαθηται αυτου νυκτος καθηκαν δια του τειχους καθηκαν αυτον χαλασαντες εν σπυριδι σφυριδι
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