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Logic: syllogisms
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1. Logic: syllogisms
Men mortal die syllogism
Logical reasoning in Greek philosophy often took the form of a syllogism that uses deductive reasoning to arrive at a conclusion.

Some people think syllogisms are "silly" and will use the pun "sillygism" to refer to a "syllogism".

2. Greek words
Refined by Aristotle, the English word "syllogism" comes from the ancient Greek word "συλλογισμός""syllogism".

3. Sully
The English word "sully" comes from an Old English word meaning "mud".

To "sully" a reputation is to make it as if "mud" were added to it.

4. Ancient Greek
The ancient Greek word "συλλογισμός""syllogism" comes from the ancient Greek word "συλλογίζομαι""compute, calculate" and appears in the GNT (Greek New Testament) as G4817 (see below). The word is made of the following. The modern Greek word "συλλογισμός" (seel-lo-y-SMOS) ≈ "syllogism".

5. Strongs - compute

6. Reckoning
The ancient Greek word "λογίζομαι""count, reckon", the root word for "syllogism", appears in Luke 20:5.

Verse routeLuke 20:5 And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say, Why then believed ye him not? [kjv]
Verse routeοι δε συνελογισαντο προς εαυτους λεγοντες οτι εαν ειπωμεν εξ ουρανου ερει δια τι ουκ επιστευσατε αυτω [gnt]


7. Luke 20:5
   Luke 20:5 
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KJV: And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say, Why then believed ye him not?
Greek: οι δε συνελογισαντο προς εαυτους λεγοντες οτι εαν ειπωμεν εξ ουρανου ερει δια τι ουν ουκ επιστευσατε αυτω

8. Strongs - count
*G3049 *40 λογίζομαι (log-id'-zom-ahee) : middle voice from G3056; to take an inventory, i.e. estimate (literally or figuratively):--conclude, (ac-)count (of), + despise, esteem, impute, lay, number, reason, reckon, suppose, think (on).
Word usage per chapter Words: ελογιζομην ελογισθη=8 ελογισθημεν λογιζεσθαι λογιζεσθε=3 λογιζεσθω=3 λογιζεται=5 λογιζη λογιζομαι=5 λογιζομεθα λογιζομενος λογιζομενους λογιζομενω λογισαμενος λογισασθαι λογισηται=2 λογισθειη λογισθηναι=2 λογισθησεται

The Greek word for "syllogism" comes from the ancient Greek word "συλλογίζομαι""compute, calculate" (as a group - together).

9. Colossians 2:4 Beguiling syllogism
Verse routeColossians 2:4 And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words. [kjv]
Verse routeτουτο λεγω ινα μηδεις υμας παραλογιζηται εν πιθανολογια [gnt]
Verse routedecipiatsubtilitate sermonum [v]

Aristotle developed the "syllogism" as a way to reason logically.

The Greek word for "syllogism" comes from the ancient Greek word "συλλογίζομαι""compute, calculate" (as a group - together).

Both of these Greek words for "beguile" as "reason falsely" and "syllogism" have the same root word "λογίζομαι""count, reckon".

Information sign More: Colossians 2:1-23 Philosophy and false reasoning through subtle sermons

10. LXX
This Greek word for "count" as in a "reasoning process" and the root word from which "syllogism" is derived appears 8 times in the LXX (Septuagint). Here are a few.

Verse routeExodus 30:12 When thou takest the sum of the children of Israel after their number, then shall they give every man a ransom for his soul unto the LORD, when thou numberest them; that there be no plague among them, when thou numberest them. [kjv]
Verse routeεαν λαβης τον συλλογισμον των υιων ισραηλ εν τη επισκοπη αυτων και δωσουσιν εκαστος λυτρα της ψυχης αυτου τω κυριω και ουκ εσται εν αυτοις πτωσις εν τη επισκοπη αυτων [lxx]

Verse routeIsaiah 43:18 Remember ye not the former things, neither consider the things of old. [kjv]
Verse routeμη μνημονευετε τα πρωτα και τα αρχαια μη συλλογιζεσθε [lxx]


11. Exodus 30:12
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KJV: When thou takest the sum of the children of Israel after their number, then shall they give every man a ransom for his soul unto the LORD, when thou numberest them; that there be no plague among them, when thou numberest them.
Hebrew: כי תשא את ראש בני ישראל לפקדיהם ונתנו איש כפר נפשו ליהוה בפקד אתם ולא יהיה בהם נגף בפקד אתם׃
Greek: εαν λαβης τον συλλογισμον των υιων ισραηλ εν τη επισκοπη αυτων και δωσουσιν εκαστος λυτρα της ψυχης αυτου τω κυριω και ουκ εσται εν αυτοις πτωσις εν τη επισκοπη αυτων

12. Isaiah 43:18
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KJV: Remember ye not the former things, neither consider the things of old.
Hebrew: אל תזכרו ראשנות וקדמניות אל תתבננו׃
Greek: μη μνημονευετε τα πρωτα και τα αρχαια μη συλλογιζεσθε
Brenton: Remember you° not the former things, and consider not the ancient things.

13. Aristotle
The Greek philosopher Aristotle, personal tutor to Alexander the Great, developed and refined the syllogism. Syllogism chain

14. Socrates
Syllogism all men are mortalA common syllogism is the following. This particular syllogism, as many, relies on what is today called set theory and often depicted using Venn diagrams.

15. Premises
There are four basic constructs of premises about S and P.

SaP: all S are P SiP: some S are P
all S are P some S are P
SeP: no S is P ScP: some S is not P
no S is P some S are not P
A difficulty in reasoning with syllogisms today is that there was not a good understanding of nothing as in "zero" in ancient times.

16. Example
Here is an example.
Syllogism
Category As stated Abstracted
Major premise All men are mortal All M are P
Minor premise Socrates is a man All S are M
Conclusion Socrates is mortal All S are P
Proper set syllogism

17. Example
Syllogism
Category As stated Abstracted
Major premise All mortals die All M are P
Minor premise All men are mortals All S are M
Conclusion All men die All S are P
Proper set syllogism 2

18. Abstraction
Note that some people throughout time have had trouble doing abstracting. That is, substituting symbols for words (that often represent meanings).

The field of algebra involves a lot of abstraction (using placeholder names and then substitution and simplification). Those who do not like algebra tend not to like syllogisms, formal logic, computer programming, etc.

19. Deductive reasoning
A deductive reasoning method is top-down, backward chaining from the ending point, the goal, to the starting point.

In modern times, the syllogism has been replaced by a more general and refined predicate logic, but that is beyond what is covered here.

20. Inductive reasoning
By contrast, an inductive reasoning method is bottom-up, forward chaining, from the starting point to the ending point, the goal.

The field of science was traditionally deductive in that evidence was gathered to formulate ideas or laws about how the universe works.

21. Mary
Mary had a little lambA connected logic argument that uses transitivity is as follows.

22. Syllogism
Mary had a little lamb

23. Syllogism: God is reality

24. Mark 10:18 Good
Verse routeMark 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God. [kjv]
Verse routeο δε ιησους ειπεν αυτω τι με λεγεις αγαθον ουδεις αγαθος ει μη εις ο θεος [gnt]
Verse routebonumbonusDeus [v]

Let us look at the idea of God being "good" is commented on by Jesus.

25. Mark 10:18
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KJV: And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
Greek: ο δε ιησους ειπεν αυτω τι με λεγεις αγαθον ουδεις αγαθος ει μη εις ο θεος
Latin: Iesus autem dixit ei quid me dicis bonum nemo bonus nisi unus Deus
Wessex: Þa cwaeð se haelend hwi saigst þu me godne; nis nan man god buton god ane.

26. Good and God
The Latin word "bonus""good" which became the English "bonus", something that is "good".

Note that the Old English word "god""good" is not related to the Middle English word "god""God". The had to be distinguished by context. Eventually, an additional "o" was added to "god" to become "good".

27. Syllogism
Here is a possible syllogism form.

28. Generalize
Here is a generalization. Now let us see what happens with Jesus as the "man". What Jesus says, in the overall context, does not result in a contradiction.

Note that Jesus leaves part of the reasoning not directly stated, but inferable.

29. Romans 3:23 All have sinned
Verse routeRomans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; [kjv]
Verse routeπαντες γαρ ημαρτον και υστερουνται της δοξης του θεου [gnt]

Church of true Christians
If sinners were not allowed in church, there would be no one allowed in church.

The Greek here for "all" is plural which means there may be exceptions. Who might be an exception?
The ancient Greek word "ἁμαρτία""error, mistake, fault, sin" as in, literally, "not a witness". The Greek for "glory" is that of "opinion". Anything that is "not a witness" for God "falls short" or "lags behind" of God's "opinion" or "expectation".

In logical reasoning, one should not universally quantify something without specifying the domain to which it applies and how it applies. The "for all" would appear to refer to "men" who are not "God" (as in "Jesus").

Information sign More: A martyred witness to a translation error
Information sign More: Whether this or that: What is your opinion on glory?
Information sign More: Expectation of a glorious Greek opinion on a doxology
Paraphrase: For all have not been a (good) witness (of God) and not approached the opinion of God


Information sign More: Whether this or that: What is your opinion on glory?

30. Romans 3:23 Glory of God
Verse routeRomans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; [kjv]
Verse routeπαντες γαρ ημαρτον και υστερουνται της δοξης του θεου [gnt]

Do we need to come up to the "glory" of God? Perhaps a pastor could help us with that seemingly unattainable quest.
Paraphrase: All (with possible exceptions) have not been a (good) witness (for God) and have lagged behind the opinion/expectation of God.

It appears we do not have to reach the level of God. God has an expectation/opinion of where we should be and we are lagging behind that expectation/opinion. This appears to be in line with Eastern Orthodox thought.

Information sign More: Sin and good people
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31. Romans 5:12
Verse routeRomans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: [kjv]


32. Romans 5:12
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KJV: Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Greek: δια τουτο ωσπερ δι ενος ανθρωπου η αμαρτια εις τον κοσμον εισηλθεν και δια της αμαρτιας ο θανατος και ουτως εις παντας ανθρωπους ο θανατος διηλθεν εφ ω παντες ημαρτον

33. Genesis 6:5
Verse routeGenesis 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. [kjv]


34. Genesis 6:5
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KJV: And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Hebrew: וירא יהוה כי רבה רעת האדם בארץ וכל יצר מחשבת לבו רק רע כל היום׃
Greek: ιδων δε κυριος ο θεος οτι επληθυνθησαν αι κακιαι των ανθρωπων επι της γης και πας τις διανοειται εν τη καρδια αυτου επιμελως επι τα πονηρα πασας τας ημερας

35. Jeremiah 17:9
Verse routeJeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? [kjv]


36. Jeremiah 17:9
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KJV: The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Hebrew: עקב הלב מכל ואנש הוא מי ידענו׃
Greek: βαθεια η καρδια παρα παντα και ανθρωπος εστιν και τις γνωσεται αυτον

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