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Some words on ancient old ages
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1. Some words on ancient old ages
Greek has words for the English "old" that include "ancient" and "beginning", "old" (as in age), "old" (as in not new).

2. Ages before and after the flood
Before and for some time after the flood people lived to very old and then old ages.

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3. Old
The modern Greek word "παλαιός" (pa-leh-OS) ≈ "old" and is the source of the English word "paleolithic" which literally means "old stones".

4. Strongs - old

5. Testaments
The modern Greek word "διαθήκη" (thee-a-THEE-kee) ≈ "testament, covenant" is used in the names of the OT (Old Testament) and NT (New Testament). The Old Testament or Old Covenant is not mentioned in the Bible but is inferred from the mention of the "new" testament as being not "old" and all the previous covenants being considered the "Old Testament".

6. Ancient
There as a Greek word for "old" as in "beginning".

7. Matthew 24:8
   Matthew 24:8 
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KJV: All these are the beginning of sorrows.
Greek: παντα δε ταυτα αρχη ωδινων
Latin: haec autem omnia initia sunt dolorum
Wessex: Ealle þas þing synt þare sare anginne.
Wycliffe: and alle these ben bigynnyngis of sorewes.
Tyndale: All these are the beginninge of sorowes.
Russian: все же это-начало болезней.

8. Old as in age
Greek has a few words for "old" as in age.

9. John 3:4
   John 3:4 
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KJV: Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
Greek: λεγει προς αυτον ο νικοδημος πως δυναται ανθρωπος γεννηθηναι γερων ων μη δυναται εις την κοιλιαν της μητρος αυτου δευτερον εισελθειν και γεννηθηναι
Latin: dicit ad eum Nicodemus quomodo potest homo nasci cum senex sit numquid potest in ventrem matris suae iterato introire et nasci
Wessex: Þa cwaeð Nichodemus to hym. hwu mayg man beon eft akenned þanne he beoð eald. Cwest þu. mag he eft cuman on hys moder innoðe & beon eft akenned.
Wycliffe: Nychodeme seide to hym, Hou may a man be borun, whanne he is eeld? whether he may entre ayen in to his modris wombe, and be borun ayen?
Tyndale: Nicodemus sayde vnto him: how can a man be boren when he is olde? can he enter into his moders wombe and be boren agayne?
Luther: Nikodemus spricht zu ihm: Wie kann ein Mensch geboren werden, wenn er alt ist? Kann er auch wiederum in seiner Mutter Leib gehen und geboren werden?

10. Gerontology
The modern Greek word "γερών" (y-RON) ≈ "old man" appears once, in the following verse in John 3:4, and is the root of the English word "gerontology" as the study of older people.

The PIE (Proto Indo-European) root is seen in the Sanskrit word "जरत्" (jaran) ≈ "old man".

The Latin Vulgate uses the Latin word "senex""old man" from which comes the English word "senile" and other words such as "senator" (which may or may not go together with "senile").

11. Presbyterians
The primary meaning of the modern Greek word "πρεσβύτερη" (preh-SVEE-teh-ree) ≈ "elder, senior" and is the source of the modern term "Presbyterian".

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12. New as in old hair
Gray hair is often associated with being old and, in some cases, a reason for respect.

The term "hoarfrost" means gray as in "gray hair" and is related to the German word "Herr""Mister" and is a term of respect for older males.

Can something "new", as in "young", be considered "old" is in aged and respected?

In 19th Century Prussia (later part of Germany) the "Junkers" were a young aristocratic and powerful group. They got their name from each being "Young Herr" where the German word "Jung""young" .

13. Psalms 147:16
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KJV: He giveth snow like wool: he scattereth the hoarfrost like ashes.
Hebrew: הנתן שלג כצמר כפור כאפר יפזר׃
Greek: του διδοντος χιονα ωσει εριον ομιχλην ωσει σποδον πασσοντος
Latin: qui dat nivem quasi lanam pruinas quasi cinerem spargit
Geneva: He giueth snowe like wooll, and scattereth the hoare frost like ashes.
Luther: Er gibt Schnee wie Wolle, er streuet Reif wie Asche.

14. Hoary frost
The "hoarfrost" is the "gray frost" where "hoar" means gray (as in gray hair from being old).

15. 1 Kings 2:6
   1 Kings 2:6 
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KJV: Do therefore according to thy wisdom, and let not his hoar head go down to the grave in peace.
Hebrew: ועשית כחכמתך ולא תורד שיבתו בשלם שאל׃
Greek: και ποιησεις κατα την σοφιαν σου και ου καταξεις την πολιαν αυτου εν ειρηνη εις αδου
Geneva: Doe therefore according to thy wisdome, and let thou not his hoare head go downe to the graue in peace.
Luther: Tue nach deiner Weisheit, daß du seine grauen Haare nicht mit Frieden hinunter zur Hölle bringest.

16. Isaiah 46:4
   Isaiah 46:4 
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KJV: And even to your old age I am he; and even to hoar hairs will I carry you: I have made, and I will bear; even I will carry, and will deliver you.
Hebrew: ועד זקנה אני הוא ועד שיבה אני אסבל אני עשיתי ואני אשא ואני אסבל ואמלט׃
Greek: εως γηρους εγω ειμι και εως αν καταγηρασητε εγω ειμι εγω ανεχομαι υμων εγω εποιησα και εγω ανησω εγω αναλημψομαι και σωσω υμας
Geneva: Therefore vnto olde age, I the same, euen I will beare you vntill the hoare heares: I haue made you: I will also beare you, and I will cary you and I will deliuer you.

17. Junkers
A German company making aircraft in World War II named their series of planes "Junker" after the Junkers, an aristocratic and powerful group from Prussia.

A famous Junker aircraft was the Junker Ju 88 tactical dive/torpedo bomber. The name "Junker" comes from the German word "Jung""young" and the German word "Herr""Mister" as they were, originally, young and powerful rulers.

A famous (or infamous) Junker was Field Marshall Paul Von Hindenburg who came to prominence in World War I and later, as an aging President of the Wiemar Democracy, turned power over to Adolf Hitler in 1933.

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