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Existence is not is existence
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1. Existence is not is existence

2. Meaning
Natural language is inherently ambiguous.
It depends on what the definition of "is" is. Bill Clinton's grand jury impeachment testimony, 1998.
When a human cannot understand the sentence, how can a computer be expected to understand the sentence?

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3. Existence is not is existence
That simple English word "is" has many meanings - more than in, say, Greek.

The English meaning of "is" can be relating two things such as "a" is "b" for equality which is different than "a" is a "b" as in a subset. Greek requires the word for "equal" if "a" and "b" are "equal" and that "equal" cannot be inferred from context. (future topic) For time it may involve a before and after.

The meaning of "is" can be that "a" exists without anything with which to compare it to for some sense of equality. Greek has a separate word for this idea. When this word is used in the GNT (Greek New Testament), preaching a sermon on "is" using the English meaning of "equals" can result in a changed meaning.

4. Existence
There existsExistence means that something exists. In mathematics, the symbol "" (backwards upper case "E") is used for "there exists".


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everone liarsPaul refers to the Cretan paradox in Titus which is not the Russell paradox. The property of "existence" is important in understanding the difference.

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5. Existence of citizenship
Paul uses the Greek word for "citizenship" twice in Philippians. In the first verse, the "is" or "be" is inferred and not explicitly in the Greek.

Verse routePhilippians 1:27 Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: … [kjv]
Verse routeμονον αξιως του ευαγγελιου του χριστου πολιτευεσθε ινα ειτε ελθων και ιδων υμας ειτε απων ακουω τα περι υμων οτι στηκετε εν ενι πνευματι μια ψυχη συναθλουντες τη πιστει του ευαγγελιου [gnt]

Verse route3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: [kjv]
Verse routeημων γαρ το πολιτευμα εν ουρανοις υπαρχει εξ ου και σωτηρα απεκδεχομεθα κυριον ιησουν χριστον [gnt]

In the second verse, that citizenship "exists" in heaven.

6. Caesar
The Roman (democratic) Republic (with Senate) essentially ended in 59 BC with the Triumvirate of Caesar, Pompeius and Crassus. Thereafter, Rome was ruled by dictators called Caesar.
In 44 B.C. Caesar was assassinated by Brutus and Cassius. This was made more famous by a play by Shakespeare.

Antony and Octavian defeated these conspirators at the Battle of Philippi in 42 B.C. This is about 90 years before Paul visits the city and about 100 years before the letter to the Philippians by Paul.

7. Roman colony
After the Battle of Philippi in 42 B.C., many Roman veterans were settled here and many locals were awarded the coveted Roman citizenship. Paul will remind the Philippians of this twice in his letter. The KJV (King James Version) uses "conversation" as "citizenship".

Verse routePhilippians 3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: [kjv]
Verse routeημων γαρ το πολιτευμα εν ουρανοις υπαρχει εξ ου και σωτηρα απεκδεχομεθα κυριον ιησουν χριστον [gnt]

From these veterans, the importance of law and order is seen in Paul's visit to Philippi in Acts 16 where the Philippians jailer is part of the story.

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8. Philippians 1:27
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KJV: Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;
Greek: μονον αξιως του ευαγγελιου του χριστου πολιτευεσθε ινα ειτε ελθων και ιδων υμας ειτε απων ακουσω ακουω τα περι υμων οτι στηκετε εν ενι πνευματι μια ψυχη συναθλουντες τη πιστει του ευαγγελιου

9. Conversation
Verse routePhilippians 3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: [kjv]
Verse routeημων γαρ το πολιτευμα εν ουρανοις υπαρχει εξ ου και σωτηρα απεκδεχομεθα κυριον ιησουν χριστον [gnt]

The Greek word for "conversation" is that of "citizenship" and had to do with interactions with others in daily routine (as in driving down the highway). This is an older meaning of "conversation" in English. This meaning has narrowed to verbal speech.
Book cover: Yogi BerraIt was impossible to get a conversation going, everybody was talking too much. Yogi Berra (American professional baseball player and manager)

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10. Greek
Verse routePhilippians 3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: [kjv]
Verse routeημων γαρ το πολιτευμα εν ουρανοις υπαρχει εξ ου και σωτηρα απεκδεχομεθα κυριον ιησουν χριστον [gnt]

The ancient Greek word "ὑπάρχω""to begin, to exist" and comes from two Greek words. Paul used the word for "conversation" in Philippians 1:27 and makes a pun using the word for "begin", as part of the word "exists" in Philippians 1.6 with a reminder in 1:24 (just before the "conversation" verse 1:27).

11. Having begun a pun in the flesh
Verse routePhilippians 1:6 …, that he which hath begun a good work in you … [kjv]
Verse routeπεποιθως αυτο τουτο οτι ο εναρξαμενος εν υμιν εργον αγαθον επιτελεσει αχρι ημερας ιησου χριστου [gnt]

Considering the context, here is a possible pun, considering both Philippians 1:6 and Galatians 3:3. The pun words "in flesh remain" in verse 6 are used directly in verse 24.

Verse route1:24 Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you. [kjv]
Verse routeτο δε επιμενειν τη σαρκι αναγκαιοτερον δι υμας [gnt]

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12. Philippians 1:6
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KJV: Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
Greek: πεποιθως αυτο τουτο οτι ο εναρξαμενος εν υμιν εργον αγαθον επιτελεσει αχρις αχρι ημερας ιησου χριστου

13. Paul in Philippians
Verse routePhilippians 3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: [kjv]
Verse routeημων γαρ το πολιτευμα εν ουρανοις υπαρχει εξ ου και σωτηρα απεκδεχομεθα κυριον ιησουν χριστον [gnt]

The Greek word for "is" is that of "exists". It is strange to say that "Our citizenship belongs in heaven" when the Greek says that it "exists" in heaven.

14. Context
Verse routePhilippians 3:19 … who mind earthly things. [kjv]
Verse routeων το τελος απωλεια ων ο θεος η κοιλια και η δοξα εν τη αισχυνη αυτων οι τα επιγεια φρονουντες [gnt]
Verse route3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: [kjv]
Verse routeημων γαρ το πολιτευμα εν ουρανοις υπαρχει εξ ου και σωτηρα απεκδεχομεθα κυριον ιησουν χριστον [gnt]

The context of the end of the previous verse is interesting and can be contrasted with the Lord's Prayer in Matthew.

Verse routeMatthew 6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. [kjv]
Verse routeελθατω η βασιλεια σου γενηθητω το θελημα σου ως εν ουρανω και επι γης [gnt]

Discuss: When exactly is the "kingdom" to come that is "looked for"?

15. Philippians 3:19
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KJV: Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.
Greek: ων το τελος απωλεια ων ο θεος η κοιλια και η δοξα εν τη αισχυνη αυτων οι τα επιγεια φρονουντες

16. Matthew 6:10
   Matthew 6:10 
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KJV: Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
Greek: ελθετω ελθατω η βασιλεια σου γενηθητω το θελημα σου ως εν ουρανω και επι της γης

17. Philippians 3:20
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KJV: For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
Greek: ημων γαρ το πολιτευμα εν ουρανοις υπαρχει εξ ου και σωτηρα απεκδεχομεθα κυριον ιησουν χριστον

18. Strongs - exists

19. Usage - exists
Word usage per chapter Words: υπαρχει=3 υπαρχειν=6 υπαρχοντα=2 υπαρχοντας υπαρχοντες=6 υπαρχοντος=3 υπαρχοντων υπαρχουσης υπαρχουσιν υπαρχων=15 υπαρχωσιν υπηρχεν=5 υπηρχον=2


20. Strongs - citizenship

21. Usage - citizenship
Word usage per chapter Words: πεπολιτευμαι πολιται πολιτευεσθε πολιτευμα πολιτην πολιτης πολιτων


22. Verses
Let us look at a few verses that use the Greek word "exists" which is often translated as English "is" with the resulting potential ambiguity.

23. Job
Verse routeJob 38:26 To cause it to rain on the earth, where no man is; on the wilderness, wherein there is no man; [kjv]
Verse routeτου υετισαι επι γην ου ουκ ανηρ ερημον ου ουχ υπαρχει ανθρωπος εν αυτη [lxx]

That is, "where no man exists".

24. Job 38:26
   Job 38:26 
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KJV: To cause it to rain on the earth, where no man is; on the wilderness, wherein there is no man;
Hebrew: להמטיר על ארץ לא איש מדבר לא אדם בו׃
Greek: του υετισαι επι γην ου ουκ ανηρ ερημον ου ουχ υπαρχει ανθρωπος εν αυτη

25. Psalms
Verse routePsalms 73:25 Whom have I in heaven but thee? and there is none upon earth that I desire beside thee. [kjv]
Verse routeτι γαρ μοι υπαρχει εν τω ουρανω και παρα σου τι ηθελησα επι της γης [lxx]

That is, "whom exists in heaven".

26. Psalms 73:25
   Psalms 73:25 
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KJV: Whom have I in heaven but thee? and there is none upon earth that I desire beside thee.
Hebrew: מי לי בשמים ועמך לא חפצתי בארץ׃
Greek: τι γαρ μοι υπαρχει εν τω ουρανω και παρα σου τι ηθελησα επι της γης

27. Counsel and safety
Verse routeProverbs 11:14 Where no counsel is, the people fall: but in the multitude of counsellors there is safety. [kjv]
Verse routeοις μη υπαρχει κυβερνησις πιπτουσιν ωσπερ φυλλα σωτηρια δε υπαρχει εν πολλη βουλη [lxx]

That is, "where no counsel exists".

28. Proverbs 11:14
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KJV: Where no counsel is, the people fall: but in the multitude of counsellors there is safety.
Hebrew: באין תחבלות יפל עם ותשועה ברב יועץ׃
Greek: οις μη υπαρχει κυβερνησις πιπτουσιν ωσπερ φυλλα σωτηρια δε υπαρχει εν πολλη βουλη

29. Righteous and wicked
Verse routeProverbs 29:7 The righteous considereth the cause of the poor: but the wicked regardeth not to know it. [kjv]
Verse routeεπισταται δικαιος κρινειν πενιχροις ο δε ασεβης ου συνησει γνωσιν και πτωχω ουχ υπαρχει νους επιγνωμων [lxx]
Verse routeA righteous man knows how to judge for the poor: but the ungodly understands not knowledge; and the poor man has not an understanding mind. [bs3]

The LXX (Septuagint) adds a third part not in the KJV which is based on the traditional Hebrew.

30. Proverbs 29:7
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KJV: The righteous considereth the cause of the poor: but the wicked regardeth not to know it.
Hebrew: ידע צדיק דין דלים רשע לא יבין דעת׃
Greek: επισταται δικαιος κρινειν πενιχροις ο δε ασεβης ου συνησει γνωσιν και πτωχω ουχ υπαρχει νους επιγνωμων
Brenton: A righteous man knows how to judge for the poor: but the ungodly understands not knowledge; and the poor man has not an understanding mind.

31. Peter and the beggar
Verse routeActs 3:6 Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk. [kjv]
Verse routeειπεν δε πετρος αργυριον και χρυσιον ουχ υπαρχει μοι ο δε εχω τουτο σοι διδωμι εν τω ονοματι ιησου χριστου του ναζωραιου περιπατει [gnt]

That is, "silver and gold does not exist" (with me).

32. Acts 3:6
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KJV: Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.
Greek: ειπεν δε πετρος αργυριον και χρυσιον ουχ υπαρχει μοι ο δε εχω τουτο σοι διδωμι εν τω ονοματι ιησου χριστου του ναζωραιου εγειραι και περιπατει

33. Divisions
Verse route1 Corinthians 11:18 For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. [kjv]
Verse routeπρωτον μεν γαρ συνερχομενων υμων εν εκκλησια ακουω σχισματα εν υμιν υπαρχειν και μερος τι πιστευω [gnt]

That is, "there exist divisions". The Greek is that of "schisms".

34. 1 Corinthians 11:18
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KJV: For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
Greek: πρωτον μεν γαρ συνερχομενων υμων εν τη εκκλησια ακουω σχισματα εν υμιν υπαρχειν και μερος τι πιστευω

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