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Gnosticism and the point in time fallacy
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1. Pits
A "pit" as a hole in the ground. It could be a "well" with or without water. It could be "bottomless" as in an "abyss".

2. Pits and wells
Verse routeGenesis 37:24 And they took him, and cast him into a pit: and the pit was empty, there was no water in it. [kjv]
Verse routeκαι λαβοντες αυτον ερριψαν εις τον λακκον ο δε λακκος κενος υδωρ ουκ ειχεν [lxx]

Verse routeDaniel 6:19 Then the king arose very early in the morning, and went in haste unto the den of lions. [kjv]
Verse routeτοτε ο βασιλευς ανεστη το πρωι εν τω φωτι και εν σπουδη ηλθεν επι τον λακκον των λεοντων [lxx]

Well, a well is a pit. There are many Greek words for a pit or a well. The ancient Greek word "λάκκος""pond, cistern, pit" and is related to the English words "lake" and "loch" as in the Loch Ness Monster. This is the pit into which Joseph and Daniel were thrown. The modern Greek word "λάκκος" (LAK-kos) ≈ "pit".

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3. Gnosticism and the point in time fallacy
PIT fallacyPIT (Point In Time) fallacy: Any theological idea, theory, etc., that comes into being at a certain point in time and, by implication, leaves everyone who existed prior to that point in time "out of luck" is not to be believed without careful analysis and thought.
The term Gnosticism comes from the ancient Greek word "γνωστικός""knowledge" which is related to the English word "knowledge". The idea of Gnosticism is that one needs special knowledge to be saved, etc., of which the Gnostic has that knowledge and others do not.

Justin Martyr had a good response to Gnosticism such that the PIT fallacy is a form of Gnosticism.

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4. Gnostic
In Christian historical terms, the name "gnostic" is used to refer to someone who claims to have "special" knowledge that one needs to be a Christian. The gnostic ideas were not prevalent until later. Think about it. It is hard to claim that one needs special knowledge about Jesus when there were eye witnesses still alive. One would not get very far.

What was prevalent at this time were those who would claim that extra work was needed.

Paul does not appear to be addressing "gnostics" in chapter 3 of Philippians. It is hard to start a "gnostic" movement when eyewitnesses are still alive. Any "gnostic" (false) beliefs were addressed to the leadership in chapters 1 and 2.

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5. Special knowledge
Verse routeJohn 13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. [kjv]
Verse routeεν τουτω γνωσονται παντες οτι εμοι μαθηται εστε εαν αγαπην εχητε εν αλληλοις [gnt]
Verse routecognoscentdilectionem … [v]

The ancient Greek word "γνῶσις""inquiry, knowledge" and is related to the English word "knowledge" where the "gn" and "kn" are linguistically related. By the end of the first century, this Greek word became associated with those who claimed a "special knowledge" of Jesus, God, etc. The Latin word "dilectio""love" and is the source of the Latin word "delicatus""alluring, charming" as in the English word "delicacy".

To "know" is not to be "ignorant".

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6. Agnostic
The modern Greek word "γνώσις" (GHNO-sees) ≈ "knowledge" which is related to the English word "knowledge". Historically, a "gnostic" is someone who believes they have "special knowledge".

The modern Greek word "άγνωστος" (A-gno-stos) ≈ "unknown" as in "not known" from which we get the English word "agnostic".

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7. A pretender to superior knowledge
Verse routeJames 4:16 But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil. [kjv]
Verse routeνυν δε καυχασθε εν ταις αλαζονειαις υμων πασα καυχησις τοιαυτη πονηρα εστιν [gnt]

Hello, my name is Know It AllThe ancient Greek word "ἀλαζονεία""pretense to superior knowledge or skill". This definition appears to be along the lines of what would later be called a "Gnostic". It appears to be similar to the English term "know it all".
The KJV (King James Version) usually translates this word as "boast" even though ancient Greek had a more common word for "boast", used 57 times in the GNT (Greek New Testament). This word appears to be onomatopoeic in that it sounds like what it describes. Interestingly, Jesus does not use either word in the Gospels nor in Revelation.

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8. Point in time fallacy
PIT fallacyPIT fallacy: Any theological idea, theory, etc., that comes into being at a certain point in time and, by implication, leaves everyone who existed prior to that point in time "out of luck" is not to be believed without careful analysis and thought.
Does believing something make it true?
Verse routeJohn 18:37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice. [kjv]

Discuss: When Jesus makes this statement to Pilate, is it restricted to a PIT?

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9. Point in time fallacy
Here are some examples.

10. Examples
Any group that has or requires beliefs that only started to exist at a point in time after the time of Jesus is a candidate for the PIT fallacy.

There are some examples of the PIT fallacy. ... more to be added ...

11. King James Only
The King James Only movement or Onlyism claims that the KJV translation of the Bible is superior to all other translations of the Bible into English.

Some claim that it is the only inspired translation and is superior to the original (as much as possible) Greek manuscripts. The KJV is based on the TR (Textus Receptus) which has a number of issues in that it appear to have been modified and not always consistent with the original Greek manuscripts.

The original 1611 KJV was in middle English and not readable by most people today.

12. James White
The apologist James White has summarized these segments of the KJV only movement. See Wikipedia for more information.

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