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1 Timothy 5:1-25 Style and content issues
1. 1 Timothy 5:1-25 Style and content issues
2. 1 Timothy
3. 1 Timothy 5:1-25 Style and content issues
4. 1 Timothy 5:1
1 Timothy 5:1 Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren; [kjv]
Does this mean that one can rebuke someone who is not an elder? The wording is somewhat ambiguous.
Paul continues to cover all bases.
5. 1 Timothy 5:1
KJV: Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren;
Greek: πρεσβυτερω μη επιπληξης αλλα παρακαλει ως πατερα νεωτερους ως αδελφους
6. 1 Timothy 5:2
1 Timothy 5:2 The elder women as mothers; the younger as sisters, with all purity. [kjv]
πρεσβυτερας ως μητερας νεωτερας ως αδελφας εν παση αγνεια [gnt]
7. 1 Timothy 5:2
KJV: The elder women as mothers; the younger as sisters, with all purity.
Greek: πρεσβυτερας ως μητερας νεωτερας ως αδελφας εν παση αγνεια
8. 1 Timothy 5:3-4
1 Timothy 5:3 Honour widows that are widows indeed. [kjv]
χηρας τιμα τας οντως χηρας [gnt]
5:4 But if any widow have children or nephews, let them learn first to shew piety at home, and to requite their parents: for that is good and acceptable before God. [kjv]
ει δε τις χηρα τεκνα η εκγονα εχει μανθανετωσαν πρωτον τον ιδιον οικον ευσεβειν και αμοιβας αποδιδοναι τοις προγονοις τουτο γαρ εστιν αποδεκτον ενωπιον του θεου [gnt]
9. 1 Timothy 5:3
KJV: Honour widows that are widows indeed.
Greek: χηρας τιμα τας οντως χηρας
10. 1 Timothy 5:4
KJV: But if any widow have children or nephews, let them learn first to shew piety at home, and to requite their parents: for that is good and acceptable before God.
Greek: ει δε τις χηρα τεκνα η εκγονα εχει μανθανετωσαν πρωτον τον ιδιον οικον ευσεβειν και αμοιβας αποδιδοναι τοις προγονοις τουτο γαρ εστιν καλον και αποδεκτον ενωπιον του θεου
11. 1 Timothy 5:5-6
1 Timothy 5:5 Now she that is a widow indeed, and desolate, trusteth in God, and continueth in supplications and prayers night and day. [kjv]
5:6 But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth. [kjv]
12. 1 Timothy 5:5
KJV: Now she that is a widow indeed, and desolate, trusteth in God, and continueth in supplications and prayers night and day.
Greek: η δε οντως χηρα και μεμονωμενη ηλπικεν επι τον θεον και προσμενει ταις δεησεσιν και ταις προσευχαις νυκτος και ημερας
13. 1 Timothy 5:6
KJV: But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth.
Greek: η δε σπαταλωσα ζωσα τεθνηκεν
14. 1 Timothy 5:7
1 Timothy 5:7 And these things give in charge, that they may be blameless. [kjv]
15. 1 Timothy 5:7
KJV: And these things give in charge, that they may be blameless.
Greek: και ταυτα παραγγελλε ινα ανεπιληπτοι ανεπιλημπτοι ωσιν
16. 1 Timothy 5:8
1 Timothy 5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel. [kjv]
17. 1 Timothy 5:8
KJV: But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
Greek: ει δε τις των ιδιων και μαλιστα των οικειων ου προνοει την πιστιν ηρνηται και εστιν απιστου χειρων
18. 1 Timothy 5:9
1 Timothy 5:9 Let not a widow be taken into the number under threescore years old, having been the wife of one man, [kjv]
These are getting to be very precise rules. Did not the Jewish religious institutions create rules, and rules about rules, etc., such as these?
How well did central top-down planning work for the Soviet Socialist Republic?
How will does central top-down planning work for religious institutions?
Is such central top-down planning in line with what Jesus said? Provide examples.
19. 1 Timothy 5:9
KJV: Let not a widow be taken into the number under threescore years old, having been the wife of one man,
Greek: χηρα καταλεγεσθω μη ελαττον ετων εξηκοντα γεγονυια ενος ανδρος γυνη
20. 1 Timothy 5:10
1 Timothy 5:10 Well reported of for good works; if she have brought up children, if she have lodged strangers, if she have washed the saints' feet, if she have relieved the afflicted, if she have diligently followed every good work. [kjv]
21. 1 Timothy 5:10
KJV: Well reported of for good works; if she have brought up children, if she have lodged strangers, if she have washed the saints' feet, if she have relieved the afflicted, if she have diligently followed every good work.
Greek: εν εργοις καλοις μαρτυρουμενη ει ετεκνοτροφησεν ει εξενοδοχησεν ει αγιων ποδας ενιψεν ει θλιβομενοις επηρκεσεν ει παντι εργω αγαθω επηκολουθησεν
22. 1 Timothy 5:11
1 Timothy 5:11 But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry; [kjv]
23. 1 Timothy 5:11
KJV: But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry;
Greek: νεωτερας δε χηρας παραιτου οταν γαρ καταστρηνιασωσιν του χριστου γαμειν θελουσιν
24. 1 Timothy 5:12
1 Timothy 5:12 Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith. [kjv]
Is Paul in the business of handing out "
damnation" to those that do not follow the rules that he has decided to mete out? What measuring rule might he be using?
25. 1 Timothy 5:12
KJV: Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith.
Greek: εχουσαι κριμα οτι την πρωτην πιστιν ηθετησαν
26. 1 Timothy 5:13
1 Timothy 5:13 And withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not. [kjv]
These are some of the same words used by Paul in 2 Timothy. However, there Paul intricately weaves together many themes.
A prequel can use some of the same words to appear to be from Paul, but without the intricate weaving of ideas, one wonders about the style differences.
27. 1 Timothy 5:13
KJV: And withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not.
Greek: αμα δε και αργαι μανθανουσιν περιερχομεναι τας οικιας ου μονον δε αργαι αλλα και φλυαροι και περιεργοι λαλουσαι τα μη δεοντα
28. 1 Timothy 5:14
1 Timothy 5:14 I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully. [kjv]
Paul has no problem here meting out specific rules for the women.
29. 1 Timothy 5:14
KJV: I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully.
Greek: βουλομαι ουν νεωτερας γαμειν τεκνογονειν οικοδεσποτειν μηδεμιαν αφορμην διδοναι τω αντικειμενω λοιδοριας χαριν
30. 1 Timothy 5:15
1 Timothy 5:15 For some are already turned aside after Satan. [kjv]
Here Paul throws out the "
Satan" word again. Is this similar to what today is called "
playing the race card"?
31. 1 Timothy 5:15
KJV: For some are already turned aside after Satan.
Greek: ηδη γαρ τινες εξετραπησαν οπισω του σατανα
32. 1 Timothy 5:16
1 Timothy 5:16 If any man or woman that believeth have widows, let them relieve them, and let not the church be charged; that it may relieve them that are widows indeed. [kjv]
33. 1 Timothy 5:16
KJV: If any man or woman that believeth have widows, let them relieve them, and let not the church be charged; that it may relieve them that are widows indeed.
Greek: ει τις πιστος η πιστη εχει χηρας επαρκειτω αυταις και μη βαρεισθω η εκκλησια ινα ταις οντως χηραις επαρκεση
34. 1 Timothy 5:17
1 Timothy 5:17 Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine. [kjv]
Here Paul is meting out "
double honor" for certain "
elders".
35. 1 Timothy 5:17
KJV: Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.
Greek: οι καλως προεστωτες πρεσβυτεροι διπλης τιμης αξιουσθωσαν μαλιστα οι κοπιωντες εν λογω και διδασκαλια
36. 1 Timothy 5:18
1 Timothy 5:18 For the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward. [kjv]
λεγει γαρ η γραφη βουν αλοωντα ου φιμωσεις και αξιος ο εργατης του μισθου αυτου [gnt]
Does what is in the scripture give Paul the authority to mete out both penalties and rewards?
37. 1 Timothy 5:18
KJV: For the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward.
Greek: λεγει γαρ η γραφη βουν αλοωντα ου φιμωσεις και αξιος ο εργατης του μισθου αυτου
38. 1 Timothy 5:19
1 Timothy 5:19 Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses. [kjv]
κατα πρεσβυτερου κατηγοριαν μη παραδεχου εκτος ει μη επι δυο η τριων μαρτυρων [gnt]
How many witnesses are required for those who are not elders?
The Catholic Church later would have levels of witnesses needed to accuse a church authority. The higher the authority, the more witnesses were needed.
In Matthew 18, Jesus does not limit who can meet with another to ascertain "
every spoken word" and all the "
facts".
39. 1 Timothy 5:19
KJV: Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses.
Greek: κατα πρεσβυτερου κατηγοριαν μη παραδεχου εκτος ει μη επι δυο η τριων μαρτυρων
40. 1 Timothy 5:20
1 Timothy 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear. [kjv]
What Paul says here goes directly against what Jesus says in Matthew 18. There, once the facts are obtained, the facts are reported to all. Everyone then makes their own decision on what to do.
If what Paul says here is done, everyone should fear, not God, but church authority, to include the "
bishop", the "
deacons", and the "
elders".
41. 1 Timothy 5:20
KJV: Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
Greek: τους δε αμαρτανοντας ενωπιον παντων ελεγχε ινα και οι λοιποι φοβον εχωσιν
42. 1 Timothy 5:21
1 Timothy 5:21 I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality. [kjv]
This sounds like Paul is asking Timothy to take an "
oath". Jesus says specifically not to do this in the Sermon on the Mount. Why might Paul be asking Timothy to do this?
43. 1 Timothy 5:21
KJV: I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.
Greek: διαμαρτυρομαι ενωπιον του θεου και κυριου ιησου χριστου ιησου και των εκλεκτων αγγελων ινα ταυτα φυλαξης χωρις προκριματος μηδεν ποιων κατα προσκλισιν
44. 1 Timothy 5:22
1 Timothy 5:22 Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: keep thyself pure. [kjv]
χειρας ταχεως μηδενι επιτιθει μηδε κοινωνει αμαρτιαις αλλοτριαις σεαυτον αγνον τηρει [gnt]
45. 1 Timothy 5:22
KJV: Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: keep thyself pure.
Greek: χειρας ταχεως μηδενι επιτιθει μηδε κοινωνει αμαρτιαις αλλοτριαις σεαυτον αγνον τηρει
46. 1 Timothy 5:23
1 Timothy 5:23 Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities. [kjv]
47. 1 Timothy 5:23
KJV: Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.
Greek: μηκετι υδροποτει αλλ αλλα οινω ολιγω χρω δια τον στομαχον σου και τας πυκνας σου ασθενειας
48. 1 Timothy 5:24
1 Timothy 5:24 Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after. [kjv]
49. 1 Timothy 5:24
KJV: Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after.
Greek: τινων ανθρωπων αι αμαρτιαι προδηλοι εισιν προαγουσαι εις κρισιν τισιν δε και επακολουθουσιν
50. 1 Timothy 5:25
1 Timothy 5:25 Likewise also the good works of some are manifest beforehand; and they that are otherwise can not be hid. [kjv]
ωσαυτως και τα εργα τα καλα προδηλα και τα αλλως εχοντα κρυβηναι ου δυνανται [gnt]
51. 1 Timothy 5:25
KJV: Likewise also the good works of some are manifest beforehand; and they that are otherwise can not be hid.
Greek: ωσαυτως και τα καλα εργα τα καλα προδηλα εστιν και τα αλλως εχοντα κρυβηναι ου δυναται δυνανται
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