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The crucifixion week
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1. The crucifixion week

2. Easter: Dazed by the date
Moon phases Sun, Earth and Moon
The Hebrew culture used a calender based on the moon, not the sun.

Easter is the first Sunday after the full moon date that falls on or after March 21 of each year.
Technical note: Easter can be between March 22 and April 25 (years 1753 to 2400).

March 21 can depend on the exact calendar system used. Eastern Orthodox churches still use the Julian calendar, about 13 days different from the Gregorian calendar. Russia did not make the calendar change until 1918 which resulted in a strange battle history involving Napoleon ins 1805.

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5. Other Easter-related dates
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6. Days of the week
Agreement
The crucifixion week is an important part of Christian history. In Jewish tradition, each day starts the evening before and ends at the start of the next evening.

7. John 19:31 Day of preparation
Verse routeJohn 19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day, ) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. [kjv]
Verse routeοι ουν ιουδαιοι επει παρασκευη ην ινα μη μεινη επι του σταυρου τα σωματα εν τω σαββατω ην γαρ μεγαλη η ημερα εκεινου του σαββατου ηρωτησαν τον πιλατον ινα κατεαγωσιν αυτων τα σκελη και αρθωσιν [gnt]

The "Day of Preparation" is the day before the Sabbath or High Sabbath. The Sabbath and the High Sabbath can be on the same day with a 1/7 probability and on a different day with a 6/7 probability.

There appear to be some mistranslations of the GNT (Greek New Testament) in order to fit the Christian tradition of a Friday crucification at the expense of not having three days and three nights in the "belly of the earth" and rise "after the third day". There are many talking points to explain away the obvious contradictions.in the translations of the Greek texts.


8. John 19:31
   John 19:31 
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KJV: The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day, ) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
Greek: οι ουν ιουδαιοι επει παρασκευη ην ινα μη μεινη επι του σταυρου τα σωματα εν τω σαββατω επει παρασκευη ην ην γαρ μεγαλη η ημερα εκεινου του σαββατου ηρωτησαν τον πιλατον ινα κατεαγωσιν αυτων τα σκελη και αρθωσιν
Latin: Iudaei ergo quoniam parasceve erat ut non remanerent in cruce corpora sabbato erat enim magnus dies ille sabbati rogaverunt Pilatum ut frangerentur eorum crura et tollerentur

9. John 19:31 Day of preparation
Verse routeJohn 19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day, ) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. [kjv]
Verse routeοι ουν ιουδαιοι επει παρασκευη ην ινα μη μεινη επι του σταυρου τα σωματα εν τω σαββατω ην γαρ μεγαλη η ημερα εκεινου του σαββατου ηρωτησαν τον πιλατον ινα κατεαγωσιν αυτων τα σκελη και αρθωσιν [gnt]

The modern Greek word "Παρασκευή" (Pa-ra-skev-EE) ≈ "Friday", which is, literally, the day of "Preparation".

10. Tradition
An Easter tradition is that the crucification of Jesus was on Friday afternoon and that the empty tomb was discovered, with the stone rolled away, on Sunday morning.

The Sunday morning discovery seems well-founded based on the texts of the GNT and subsequent church history and traditions.

Some issues arise with the certain passages.

11. Matthew 12:38-39
Jesus mentions Jonah in Matthew.
Verse routeMatthew 12:38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. [kjv]
Verse routeτοτε απεκριθησαν αυτω τινες των γραμματεων και φαρισαιων λεγοντες διδασκαλε θελομεν απο σου σημειον ιδειν [gnt]
Verse route12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: [kjv]
Verse routeο δε αποκριθεις ειπεν αυτοις γενεα πονηρα και μοιχαλις σημειον επιζητει και σημειον ου δοθησεται αυτη ει μη το σημειον ιωνα του προφητου [gnt]


12. Matthew 12:40
Verse routeMatthew 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. [kjv]
Verse routeωσπερ γαρ ην ιωνας εν τη κοιλια του κητους τρεις ημερας και τρεις νυκτας ουτως εσται ο υιος του ανθρωπου εν τη καρδια της γης τρεις ημερας και τρεις νυκτας [gnt]

How does one get three days and three nights from late Friday afternoon right before sundown until Sunday morning?

Remember: The stone was moved to let the women and disciples in, not let the resurrected Jesus get out.

13. Matthew 12:38
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KJV: Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.
Greek: τοτε απεκριθησαν αυτω τινες των γραμματεων και φαρισαιων λεγοντες διδασκαλε θελομεν απο σου σημειον ιδειν
Latin: tunc responderunt ei quidam de scribis et Pharisaeis dicentes magister volumus a te signum videre
Wessex: Ða andswereden him sume þa bokeres. & þa sunder-halgan. þus cweðende. Lareow we willeð sum taken of þe ge-seon.
Wycliffe: Thanne summe of the scribis and Farisees answeriden to hym, and seiden, Mayster, we wolen se a tokne of thee.
Tyndale: Then answered certeyne of the scribes and of the Pharises sayinge: Master we wolde fayne se a sygne of ye.

14. Matthew 12:39
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KJV: But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
Greek: ο δε αποκριθεις ειπεν αυτοις γενεα πονηρα και μοιχαλις σημειον επιζητει και σημειον ου δοθησεται αυτη ει μη το σημειον ιωνα του προφητου
Latin: qui respondens ait illis generatio mala et adultera signum quaerit et signum non dabitur ei nisi signum Ionae prophetae
Tyndale: He answered and sayde to the: The evyll and advoutrous generacio seketh a signe but ther shall no signe be geve to the saue the signe of the Prophete Ionas.
Slavonic: Он же отвещав рече им: род лукав и прелюбодей знамения ищет, и знамение не дастся ему, токмо знамение Ионы пророка:

15. Matthew 12:40
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KJV: For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Greek: ωσπερ γαρ ην ιωνας εν τη κοιλια του κητους τρεις ημερας και τρεις νυκτας ουτως εσται ο υιος του ανθρωπου εν τη καρδια της γης τρεις ημερας και τρεις νυκτας
Latin: sicut enim fuit Ionas in ventre ceti tribus diebus et tribus noctibus sic erit Filius hominis in corde terrae tribus diebus et tribus noctibus
Wessex: Witodlice swa swa ionas waes on þas hwaeles innoðe þreo dages & þreo niht. swa beoð mannes sune on eorðan heortan þreo dages & þreo niht.
Wycliffe: For as Jonas was in the wombe of a whal thre daies and thre nyytis, so mannus sone shal be in the herte of the erthe thre daies and thre nyytis.
Slavonic: якоже бо бе Иона во чреве китове три дни и три нощы, тако будет и Сын Человеческий в сердцы земли три дни и три нощы.

16. Matthew 12:41 Nineveh and Jonah
Verse routeMatthew 12:41 The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here. [kjv]
Verse routeανδρες νινευιται αναστησονται εν τη κρισει μετα της γενεας ταυτης και κατακρινουσιν αυτην οτι μετενοησαν εις το κηρυγμα ιωνα και ιδου πλειον ιωνα ωδε [gnt]
Verse routeiudicio … [v]


17. Matthew 12:41
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KJV: The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.
Greek: ανδρες νινευιται αναστησονται εν τη κρισει μετα της γενεας ταυτης και κατακρινουσιν αυτην οτι μετενοησαν εις το κηρυγμα ιωνα και ιδου πλειον ιωνα ωδε
Latin: viri ninevitae surgent in iudicio cum generatione ista et condemnabunt eam quia paenitentiam egerunt in praedicatione Ionae et ecce plus quam Iona hic
Wessex: Niniueissce weres ariseð on dome mid þisse cneornysse & hyo niðeriað hyo. for-þan þe hyo dyden dead-bote on Ionases bodiunge. & þes ys mare þanne Ionas.
Wycliffe: Men of Nynyue schulen rise in doom with this generacioun, and schulen condempne it; for thei diden penaunce in the prechyng of Jonas, and lo! here a gretter than Jonas.
Tyndale: The men of Ninivie shall rise at the daye of iugdement with this nacion and condemne them: for they amended at ye preachinge of Ionas. And beholde a greater then Ionas is here.
Slavonic: Мужие Ниневитстии востанут на суд с родом сим и осудят его, яко покаяшася проповедию Иониною: и се, боле Ионы зде.

18. Luke 11:29 Jonah
Verse routeLuke 11:29 And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet. [kjv]

Luke mentions the same Jonah (but without the three days and three nights and without Nineveh).

19. Luke 11:29
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KJV: And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.
Greek: των δε οχλων επαθροιζομενων ηρξατο λεγειν η γενεα αυτη γενεα πονηρα εστιν σημειον επιζητει ζητει και σημειον ου δοθησεται αυτη ει μη το σημειον ιωνα του προφητου

20. Agreement
Agreement
There is general agreement on the above week.

21. Friday crucifixion tradition
Friday
The tradition is of a Friday crucifixion. It is hard to rationalize three days and three nights in the grave.

22. Thursday crucifixion
Thursday
Remember: The stone was rolled away to let people in, not to let Jesus out.

23. Wednesday crucifixion
Wednesday

24. Some crucifixion week alternatives

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How does one get "three days" and "three nights" from Friday afternoon until Sunday morning? The "Day of Preparation" is the day before the Sabbath or High Sabbath. The Sabbath and the High Sabbath can be on the same day with a 1/7 probability and on a different day with a 6/7 probability. What does the Greek text say?

[stone rolled away, time to buy spices]

25. The crucifixion week
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How does one get three days and three nights in the grave from late Friday afternoon until early Sunday morning?
The Passover week of the crucifixion of Jesus is documented in the four Gospels. There are some variations in the events and many have tried to harmonize the Gospels for events of the Passover week.

Matthew 21-28 Mark 11-16 Luke 19-24 John 12-21

A model providing redundancy might help resolve any discrepancies.
 
There are octagons, heptagons, hexagons. One person got very upset when I claimed there were 2-sided polygons. How did I reconcile with the person?

26. Greek Orthodox days
The Greek Orthodox church has names for each day of the Passover week. The Catholic and Protestant church have names for many of these days.

# Name Traditional events
7 Lazarus Saturday Raising of Lazarus
1 Palm Sunday Triumphal entry
2 Holy Monday Clearing of the Temple
3 Holy Tuesday Mount of Olives discourse
4 Holy Wednesday Rest in Bethany
5 Maundy Thursday Passover and Last supper, arrest, trials
6 Good Friday Day of Preparation, cross, death, burial
7 Holy Saturday In the grave
1 Pascha,Easter Resurrection Sunday, empty tomb

27. Bowling pin layout
Bowling pins Tetractys 2 Tetractys 8 TPS 10

The tetractys pattern is the same as the bowling pin layout, except that the base is at the back and the one pin is in the front.

The TenWordPin model does not appear to need many of the interior transitions (vertical) from node to node. The sequential ordering is needed.

For 10 (ten) nodes or elements, there are 10! (ten factorial) or 3,628,800 ways or permutations of arranging those elements. There are 45 possible edges so there are 245 or about 35,000,000,000,000 ways (subsets of edges) to include or exclude each edge in the model. Some models work better than other models.

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28. Creation days
The seven days of creation are outlined at the beginning of Genesis. Is there a connection to the days of the Passover week?

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29. Saturday: Bethany, Lazarus Saturday
Triangle 1
The raising of Lazarus is assumed to have taken place the day before the entry into Jerusalem. This will be associated with the Sabbath and "in the grave".

30. Sunday: Triumphal entry, Palm Sunday
Triangle 2
The Triumphal entry of Jesus into Jerusalem riding on a colt is Palm Sunday. Sunday is the first day of the week.

31. Monday: Clearing the temple
Triangle 3
On Monday, Jesus clears the temple.

32. Tuesday: Olivet discourse, Judas
Triangle 4
On Tuesday, in Jerusalem (city on a hill), Judas makes an oath with the religious establishment to betray Jesus. Jesus makes oaths of a sort on the Mount of Olives (few on a hill).

33. Wednesday: Last supper, arrest, trials
Triangle 5
On Wednesday, the Jesus arranges the Last Supper.

34. Thursday: Arrest, trials, cross, burial
Triangle 6
On Thursday (night before), Jesus is betrayed, arrested, has trials during the night, is crucified, dead and buried.

35. Friday: High Sabbath
Triangle 7
The High Sabbath was a tradition and not ordained by God. Perhaps the women could have purchased spices during the High Sabbath.

36. Saturday: In the grave
Triangle 8
Saturday was in the grave.

37. Sunday: Resurrection Sunday
Triangle 9
On Sunday morning, the empty tomb was discovered. Jesus had risen.

38. Visit the underworld
Triangle 10
Jesus could visit the underworld in a manner similar to the earth part of the creation days.

39. Ascend to the Father
Triangle 11
In a short time later, Jesus would ascend to the Father.

40. Passover week sequence
Triangle 12


41. Passover week sequence as a build

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42. Creation week build

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43. Generations and Ten Commandments build

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44. Generations big build

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45. Revelation and Ten Commandments build

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