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Philippians 2:5-8 form of God and Aristotelian causes
1. Philippians 2:5
KJV: Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Greek: τουτο γαρ φρονεισθω φρονειτε εν υμιν ο και εν χριστω ιησου
2. Philippians 2:6
KJV: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Greek: ος εν μορφη θεου υπαρχων ουχ αρπαγμον ηγησατο το ειναι ισα θεω
Latin: qui cum in forma Dei esset non rapinam arbitratus est esse se aequalem Deo
3. Philippians 2:7
KJV: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Greek: αλλ αλλα εαυτον εκενωσεν μορφην δουλου λαβων εν ομοιωματι ανθρωπων γενομενος και σχηματι ευρεθεις ως ανθρωπος
Latin: sed semet ipsum exinanivit formam servi accipiens in similitudinem hominum factus et habitu inventus ut homo
4. Philippians 2:8
KJV: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Greek: και σχηματι ευρεθεις ως ανθρωπος εταπεινωσεν εταπεινωσεν εαυτον γενομενος υπηκοος μεχρι θανατου θανατου δε σταυρου
Latin: humiliavit semet ipsum factus oboediens usque ad mortem mortem autem crucis
5. Philippians 2:5-8 Verses
6. Philippians 2:5-8 form of God and Aristotelian causes
Jesus is our Lord (King) and Savior (Christ) but showed by example how to be a servant.
Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: [kjv]
ος εν μορφη θεου υπαρχων ουχ αρπαγμον ηγησατο το ειναι ισα θεω [gnt]
… forma … rapinam … aequalem … [v]
2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: [kjv]
αλλα εαυτον εκενωσεν μορφην δουλου λαβων εν ομοιωματι ανθρωπων γενομενος και σχηματι ευρεθεις ως ανθρωπος [gnt]
… formam … factus … inventus … [v]
2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. [kjv]
εταπεινωσενεταπεινωσεν εαυτον γενομενος υπηκοος μεχρι θανατου θανατου δε σταυρου [gnt]
Philippians 2:6-11 form a famous poem (unknown author, perhaps Paul, but used here by Paul). Paul appears to be using, by analogy, Aristotle's four causes.
7. Context
The context is that of Paul taking the "
bishops" (leadership) to task.
They are doing things they should not be doing.
They are not doing things they should be doing.
Specifically, the following is happening.
Personal "good opinion" or "empty opinion" is being used.
Invalid or contentious "eristic logic" is being used.
[political opinion example]
To insure that this is clear, Paul will return to these ideas again and again in parts of the rest of the letter.
At least, Paul says, Jesus Christ is preached - whether in truth or pretend.
8. Explaining the spleen
The ancient Greek word
"σπλάγχνον" ≈ "bowels, guts" comes from the ancient Greek word
"σπλήν" ≈ "spleen" and is the source of the English word
"spleen". The word "
milt" is the Germanic word for "
spleen".
Try saying the corresponding modern Greek word
"σπλάγχνο" (SPLAGHKH-no) ≈ "bowels, guts".
In ancient Greek times, the "
bowels" or "
guts" were the "
seat of feelings" or "
gut feeling" as today we would call the "
heart".
The Greek word for "
bowels" has to do with an active "
gut feeling" rather than "
head knowledge" or, in Greek terms "
wisdom".
9. Bowels of Jesus Christ
Philippians 1:8 For God is my record, how greatly I long after you all in the bowels of Jesus Christ. [kjv]
μαρτυς γαρ μου ο θεος ως επιποθω παντας υμας εν σπλαγχνοις ιησου χριστου ιησου [gnt]
testis … visceribus … [v]
Jesus
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church
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prudent
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wise
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gut feeling
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head knowledge
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active
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passive
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The Greek for passive "
record" is that of being an active "
witness".
The Greek word for "
bowels" has to do with an active "
gut feeling"or being "
prudent" with "
street smarts" rather than passive "
wisdom" that is "
head knowledge".
10. Philippians 1:8
KJV: For God is my record, how greatly I long after you all in the bowels of Jesus Christ.
Greek: μαρτυς γαρ μου εστιν ο θεος ως επιποθω παντας υμας εν σπλαγχνοις ιησου χριστου ιησου
Latin: testis enim mihi est Deus quomodo cupiam omnes vos in visceribus Christi Iesu
11. Context
The previous verse is as follows.
Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: [kjv]
τουτο φρονειτε εν υμιν ο και εν χριστω ιησου [gnt]
In reading the verses that follow (the poem) ask yourself how what is said might help having the "
prudent" mind of Jesus Christ in
yourself instead of trying to make some big theological points for others.
12. Arianism
Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: [kjv]
ος εν μορφη θεου υπαρχων ουχ αρπαγμον ηγησατο το ειναι ισα θεω [gnt]
… forma … rapinam … aequalem … [v]
Arianism denied that Jesus was actually equal to God but rather, was born at a given point in time and therefore, was subordinate to God the Father.
The above verse does not say this, but
Arius (256-336) interpreted it that way. Aristotle named this type of logical fallacy "
begging the question" which means "
assuming the conclusion" as in using "
circular reasoning".
This heresy is still prevalent today, though many do not realize that it has a name and originated shortly after the time of Jesus.
13. Heresies
There are two primary heresies in almost any group that deviates from the Bible.
1. Deny the deity of Christ as God.
2. Establish a salvation by works doctrine.
Discuss: What is the effect of accepting either or both of these heresies?
Note: Adding traditions to the Bible that do not contradict the Bible has the effect of creating more rules to follow, but may blur the true goal of the Christian believer.
14. Black box model for the Trinity
Some people confuse a "
dimension" as a way to look at something with a "
mode" as a heresy. For those, each "
view" from one side of the box may help.
Does it make any difference in practice if we know the exact nature and inner workings of each aspect of the Trinity?
1 Corinthians 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. [kjv]
Each side uses scripture to justify their view. What do we know?
15. Disambiguation
Arius (256-336) was an early church leader whose ideas were decided to be a heresy. Since his writings were destroyed and what he believed reported by his enemies it is unclear what else he might have taught.
Aryan or
Aria or
Arya is a term used by a group of people in ancient times in the middle east and that are believed to have brought Hindu religious thought to India. The original word is related to "
Iranian".
French racial theorist Arthur Gobineau (1816-1882) promoted the idea that the ancient Aryans, as a racial group, were superior to other groups. These ideas went through some German writers and were adopted by Adolf Hitler for his National Socialist, or Nazi, party.
16. Being
Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: [kjv]
ος εν μορφη θεου υπαρχων ουχ αρπαγμον ηγησατο το ειναι ισα θεω [gnt]
… forma … rapinam … aequalem … [v]
Greek and most languages has more than one word for the English word "
is". The Greek word used here has the idea of "
existence".
The English word
"is" has a number of meanings.
It depends on what the definition of "is" is. Bill Clinton's grand jury impeachment testimony, 1998.
17. Being
In Greek philosophy, the idea of "
being" had several competing meanings argued by various philosophers, theologians, etc.
The "coming into being".
The state of "being".
These Greek and Latin terms include "
ousia", "
substance", "
hypostasis", etc.
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Details are left as a future topic.
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Here, a different word just meaning "
existence" is used.
18. Form
Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: [kjv]
ος εν μορφη θεου υπαρχων ουχ αρπαγμον ηγησατο το ειναι ισα θεω [gnt]
… forma … rapinam … aequalem … [v]
Paul is writing to a Greek audience.
The
Platonic idea of "
forms", from
Plato, was that of a perfect but abstract idea that became realized in some imperfect manifestation.
Aristotle had a more physical manifestation or appearance as in the "
form" of something based in "
reality".
Paul may be "
playing" with both of these ideas, "
though" (as in "
dough") it may not be a clear "
form".
19. Playdough
Do not confuse "
Plato" with "
playdough" or "
Play-Doh". Play-Doh is made primarily of water, salt and flour. It is not edible, but, for pragmatic reasons, is not really poisonous (out of the box, all bets are off once mixed with other substances).
The Hasbro "
Play-Doh" web site is at
https://playdoh.hasbro.com/en-us. (as of 2022-10-15)
There is a learning website named "
Playdough to PLATO" at
https://www.playdoughtoplato.com/. (as of 2022-10-15)
20. Strongs - form
- *G3444 *3 μορφή (mor-fay') : perhaps from the base of G3313 (through the idea of adjustment of parts); shape; figuratively, nature:--form.
- μορφη *2
- Mark 16:12 ... he appeared in another form unto two of them, ...
- Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not ...
- μορφην
- Philippians 2:7 ... himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in ...
- *G3445 *1 μορφόω (mor-fo'-o) : from the same as G3444 μορφή; to fashion (figuratively):--form.
- μορφωθη
- Galatians 4:19 ... again until Christ be formed in you,
- *G4832 *2 συμμορφός (soom-mor-fos') : from G4862 and G3444 μορφή; jointly formed, i.e. (figuratively) similar:--conformed to, fashioned like unto.
- συμμορφους
- Romans 8:29 ... he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his ...
- συνμορφον
- Philippians 3:21 ... that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, ...
- *G4833 *1 συμμορφόω (soom-mor-fo'-o) : from G4832 συμμορφός; to render like, i.e. (figuratively) to assimilate:--make conformable unto.
- συνμορφιζομενος
- Philippians 3:10 ... of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
21. Usage - form
For some reason, Paul uses the words with or related to the Greek word for "
form" often in Philippians. This ignores "
metamorphosis".
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Words: μορφη=2 μορφην μορφωθη συμμορφους συνμορφιζομενος συνμορφον
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22. Mathematics and reality
A mathematical "
circle" does not exist in the real world. Only approximations exist in reality.
Neither do "
points", "
lines", "
planes", "
spaces", etc., exist in reality.
- Plato considered the mathematical ideas more "real" than what exists in "reality".
- Aristotle considered the "reality" of what one sees and senses it the real word important.
Aristotle ponders this reality. Paul builds on Aristotle by telling the Ephesians (in various ways) "
there's more" as in "
height".
Ephesians 3:18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; [kjv]
εν αγαπη ερριζωμενοι και τεθεμελιωμενοι ινα εξισχυσητε καταλαβεσθαι συν πασιν τοις αγιοις τι το πλατος και μηκος και υψος και βαθος [gnt]
23. Plato and Aristotle
These ideas are reflected in the famous Raphael painting of "
The school of Athens" showing (the older) Plato pointing up (to abstract ideas) and (the younger) Aristotle pointing down (to actual reality).
A "
Platonic" relationship is abstract and not physical (in reality).
Plato has more of an abstract mathematical outlook whereas Aristotle has more of a pragmatic and concrete engineering outlook.
24. Engineer, mathematician, and psychologist
The difference between engineers and mathematicians can, perhaps, be understood by way of the following story (modified from Paulos, J. (1991).
Beyond innumeracy. New York: Vintage Books., p. 81.).
A psychologist is questioning a mathematician and a engineer in the same room. To the engineer, the psychologist asks, "There is a fire on the stove and a glass of water on the table. What do you do?". To which the engineer, without hesitation, replies, "I would take the glass of water on the table and use it to dowse the fire on the stove". The psychologist then asked the mathematician, "The glass of water is now on the window sill. What would you do?". To which the mathematician, without hesitation, replies, "I would take the glass of water on the window sill and move it to the table and in that manner reduce the problem to the previously solved problem".
25. Engineering efficiency
Although mathematics is very important to the computer scientist, there is much more than mathematics to computer science.
Programming is as much a mathematical discipline as an engineering discipline; correctness is as much our concern as, say, efficiency. Dijkstra, E. (1976).
A discipline of programming. Englewood Cliffs, NJ: Prentice-Hall., p. 54-55.
Edsger Dijkstra (computer scientist)
26. Comparison of truth preferences
Jesus and Paul prefer the more pragmatic and concrete engineering outlook to reality. This is somewhat like the "
Aristotelian" approach.
Some prefer the more abstract and out-of-touch with reality ways of (thinking about but not) doing things. This is somewhat like the "
Platonic" approach.
Aristotle says that one tends not to reason with things but, rather, with the names of things. In doing so, there is room for deception.
Others prefer the "
humanistic" or "
opinion" or "
good feelings" approach - that of "
Protagoras": "
man is the measure of all things".
27. Robbery and snatching up
Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: [kjv]
ος εν μορφη θεου υπαρχων ουχ αρπαγμον ηγησατο το ειναι ισα θεω [gnt]
… forma … rapinam … aequalem … [v]
The Greek word for "
robbery" is that of "
snatching up" or otherwise acquiring something, as in "
grasping", the "
rapture" or "
plundering".
This particular word is used only once in the
GNT (Greek New Testament) - by Paul. This may be another word whose related similar-sounding word is what the "
bishops" are actually doing - "
robbing" those they are to assist.
28. Strongs - grasped
- *G725 *1 ἁρπαγμός (har-pag-mos') : from G726 ἁρπάζω; plunder (properly concrete):--robbery.
- αρπαγμον
- Philippians 2:6 ... of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
- *G726 *14 ἁρπάζω (har-pad'-zo) : from a derivative of G138; to seize (in various applications):--catch (away, up), pluck, pull, take (by force).
- αρπασαι *2
- Matthew 12:29 Or else how can one enter into ...
- Acts 23:10 ... the soldiers to go down, and to take him by force from among ...
- αρπαζει *2
- Matthew 13:19 ... then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his ...
- John 10:12 ... fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.
- αρπαζειν *2
- John 6:15 ... come and take him by force, to make ...
- John 10:29 ... and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
- αρπαζουσιν
- Matthew 11:12 ... and the violent take it by force.
- αρπασει
- John 10:28 ... perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of ...
- ηρπασεν
- Acts 8:39 ... the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch ...
- αρπαγεντα
- 2 Corinthians 12:2 ... God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
- ηρπαγη
- 2 Corinthians 12:4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard ...
- αρπαγησομεθα
- 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them ...
- αρπαζοντες
- Jude 1:23 ... save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating ...
- ηρπασθη
- Revelation 12:5 ... and her child was caught up unto God, and ...
29. Usage - grasped
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Words: αρπαγεντα αρπαγησομεθα αρπαγμον αρπαζει=2 αρπαζειν=2 αρπαζοντες αρπαζουσιν αρπασαι=2 αρπασει ηρπαγη ηρπασεν ηρπασθη
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30. Equality
Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: [kjv]
ος εν μορφη θεου υπαρχων ουχ αρπαγμον ηγησατο το ειναι ισα θεω [gnt]
… forma … rapinam … aequalem … [v]
The ancient Greek word
"ἴσος" ≈ "like, similar, as" and is the source of the English prefix
"iso".
- isomorphism
- isotope
The word "
equal" here means that of "
as" or "
similar" or "
equal".
An actual definition of "
equal" or "
equality", even in mathematics, is not particularly easy, and was a debated idea in Greek philosophy.
31. Change
There is a saying that "
the only constant is change".
This is often attributed to
Heraclitus of Ephesus (Ancient Greek philosopher) (from Plato) as "
everything changes and nothing remains stil,2l; and you cannot step twice into the same stream."Saying:
No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man.
When, exactly, are two things "
equal"?
Example paradox: ship of Theseus
What about digital copies? What about military units and soldiers, naval ships and crews, sports teams and players, etc.?
32. Strongs - equal