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Do not no way use double negatives
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1. Do not no way use double negatives

2. A prefix alpha to negate
Greek letter
The Greek prefix "α" (alpha) negates the word for which it is a prefix. This has come through to English in many pairs of words.
periodic aperiodic
political apolitical
synchronous asynchronous
theist atheist
typical atypical
The same idea comes through in many English words taken from the Greek.
In Greek, however, there are a number of words that developed independently of the alpha-negation prefix such that they can be play on words with those alpha-negated words.

3. Strong and weak
The ancient Greek word "σθένος""strength, might, power". Prefixing the negating alpha results in "ἀσθενής""without strength, feeble, sickly, insignificant".
Verse routeJob 4:10 The roaring of the lion, and the voice of the fierce lion, and the teeth of the young lions, are broken. [kjv]
Verse routeσθενος λεοντος φωνη δε λεαινης γαυριαμα δε δρακοντων εσβεσθη [lxx]
Verse routeThe strength of the lion, and the voice of the lioness, and the exulting cry of serpents are quenched. [bs3]
Verse routeMatthew 25:39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? [kjv]
Verse routeποτε δε σε ειδομεν ασθενουντα η εν φυλακη και ηλθομεν προς σε [gnt]

The LXX (Septuagint) has "strength" for "roaring". The LXX has "dragons" which is not in the KJV (King James Version) or the HOT (Hebrew Old Testament).

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4. Eratosthenes
The ancient Greek "Ἐρατοσθένης""Eratosthenes" was a famous Greek scientist and mathematician in the 3rd Century BC in Egypt. Two discoveries credited to Eratosthenes are the following. Eratosthenes provided an effective (correct) way but not an efficient way to work with prime numbers. Today, the world's information security systems (e.g., public key cryptography) are based on not having an efficient way with which to determine prime factors of (large) composite numbers.

5. Strongs - ready
*G3195 *110 μέλλω (mel'-lo) : a strengthened form of G3199 (through the idea of expectation); to intend, i.e. be about to be, do, or suffer something (of persons or things, especially events; in the sense of purpose, duty, necessity, probability, possibility, or hesitation):--about, after that, be (almost), (that which is, things, + which was for) to come, intend, was to (be), mean, mind, be at the point, (be) ready, + return, shall (begin), (which, that) should (after, afterwards, hereafter) tarry, which was for, will, would, be yet.
Word usage per chapter Words: εμελλεν=3 εμελλον=3 ημελλεν=11 ημελλον μελλει=16 μελλειν=6 μελλεις=4 μελλετε=2 μελλη=3 μελλησετε μελλησω=1 μελλομεν μελλον=2 μελλοντα=6 μελλοντας=3 μελλοντες=4 μελλοντι=4 μελλοντος=6 μελλοντων=9 μελλουσαν=4 μελλουσης=6 μελλουσιν=2 μελλω=2 μελλων=10

The ancient Greek word "μέλλω""think of doing, intend to do, about to do".

6. 2 Peter 1:12 Ready and not unready
Verse route2 Peter 1:12 Wherefore I will not be negligent to put you always in remembrance of these things, though ye know them, and be established in the present truth. [kjv]
Verse routeδιο μελλησω αει υμας υπομιμνησκειν περι τουτων καιπερ ειδοτας και εστηριγμενους εν τη παρουση αληθεια [gnt]

The ancient Greek word "μέλλω""think of doing, intend to do, about to do". The TR (Textus Receptus) changes "ready" to "not" and "not ready" or "unready" by using the negating alpha prefix. What might be the difference in the meaning of each? Which might be the original and which the variant?

7. 2 Peter 1:12
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KJV: Wherefore I will not be negligent to put you always in remembrance of these things, though ye know them, and be established in the present truth.
Greek: διο ουκ αμελησω υμας μελλησω αει υμας υπομιμνησκειν περι τουτων καιπερ ειδοτας και εστηριγμενους εν τη παρουση αληθεια

8. Ephesians 2:12 Atheist without God
Verse routeEphesians 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: [kjv]
Verse routeοτι ητε τω καιρω εκεινω χωρις χριστου απηλλοτριωμενοι της πολιτειας του ισραηλ και ξενοι των διαθηκων της επαγγελιας ελπιδα μη εχοντες και αθεοι εν τω κοσμω [gnt]

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The ancient Greek word "θεός""deity, god, God" and is the source of the English word "theist".
With the with negating alpha prefix, "ἄθεος""without gods"and is the source of the English word "atheist". At one time (it is said), that someone called the "Atheist Anonymous" hot-line. No one answered! Today, there may actually be such a phone line.

The modern Greek word "θεός" (theh-OS) ≈ "god". The modern Greek word "άθεος" (A-theh-os) ≈ "without God".

9. Saying
Verse routeEphesians 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: [kjv]

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10. Ephesians 2:12
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KJV: That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
Greek: οτι ητε εν τω καιρω εκεινω χωρις χριστου απηλλοτριωμενοι της πολιτειας του ισραηλ και ξενοι των διαθηκων της επαγγελιας ελπιδα μη εχοντες και αθεοι εν τω κοσμω

11. Agnostic
The modern Greek word "γνώσις" (GHNO-sees) ≈ "knowledge" which is related to the English word "knowledge". Historically, a "Gnostic" is someone who believes they have "special knowledge".

The modern Greek word "άγνωστος" (A-gno-stos) ≈ "unknown" as in "not known" from which we get the English word "agnostic".

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The British mathematician, logician and philosopher Bertrand Russel used the term "agnostic" instead of "atheist" since calling oneself an "atheist" is not logical.


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12. 2 Corinthians 6:6 Ignorant pureness
Verse route2 Corinthians 6:6 By pureness, by knowledge, by longsuffering, by kindness, by the Holy Ghost, by love unfeigned, [kjv]
Verse routeεν αγνοτητι εν γνωσει εν μακροθυμια εν χρηστοτητι εν πνευματι αγιω εν αγαπη ανυποκριτω [gnt]

In this verse, the KJV translates what would appear to be "ignorant" but, instead, is "pureness". The Greek word means chaste and comes from another Greek word for "holy" or "sanctified".
Could this meaning have anything to do with "ignorant" as in "not knowing" as in a "blind faith"?

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13. Possible pun
The negation of the word for "knowledge" just happens to be similar to the word for "chaste". The distinction between hard and soft breathing at the start of a word disappeared in the first century BC.
In modern Greek, the omicron (short, small) and omega (long, big) sound the same. In ancient Greek, they would have somewhat similar but yet different sounds. It makes one wonder about puns in the ancient Greek language involving these two words.

Candidates for such puns would be words used only once by Paul that could have a double meaning.

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14. 2 Corinthians 6:6

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KJV: By pureness, by knowledge, by longsuffering, by kindness, by the Holy Ghost, by love unfeigned,
Greek: εν αγνοτητι εν γνωσει εν μακροθυμια εν χρηστοτητι εν πνευματι αγιω εν αγαπη ανυποκριτω
Latin: in castitate in scientia in longanimitate in suavitate in Spiritu Sancto in caritate non ficta
Wycliffe: in chastite, in kunnyng, in long abiding, in swetnesse, in the Hooli Goost,
Gothic: in swiknithai, in kunthja, in laggamodein, in selein, in ahmin weihamma, in frijathwai unhindarweisai,
Luther: in Keuschheit, in Erkenntnis, in Langmut, in Freundlichkeit, in dem Heiligen Geist, in ungefärbter Liebe,

15. Matthew 12:3,5,7 Play on words
Verse routeMatthew 12:3 … Have ye not read what David did, … [kjv]
Verse routeειπενουκ ανεγνωτεεποιησενεπεινασεν … [gnt]
Verse route12:5 Or have ye not read in the law, how … [kjv]
Verse routeουκ ανεγνωτενομωσαββασινιερειςιερωσαββατον βεβηλουσιναναιτιοι … [gnt]
Verse route12:7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, … [kjv]
Verse routeει δε εγνωκειτεεστιν ελεος θελωθυσιανκατεδικασατεαναιτιους [gnt]

Note the play on words in verses 3 and 5 and reemphasized in verse 7, as in yes, that is what I meant. The alpha-negation prefix adds a consonant such as "ν", in a manner similar to the movable nu. This play on words works with the specific verb tense chosen by Jesus.

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16. Exodus 20:16 Do not lie (against neighbor)
Verse routeExodus 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. [kjv]
Verse routeου ψευδομαρτυρησεις κατα του πλησιον σου μαρτυριαν ψευδη [lxx]

C 9This commandment does not say "do not lie". Discuss: How can you "lie" and yet not bear "false witness" against one's "neighbor"?

The ancient Greek word "ψευδής""lying, false, untrue" and is the source of the English word (and prefix) "pseudo". An interesting "paradox" is the "liar paradox".or "Russell Paradox".
The ancient Greek word "μάρτυς""witness" and is the source of the English word "martyr". After the time of Jesus, so many "witnesses" for Christ were killed for their witness that the word meaning narrowed to a witness who is killed for their witness.

Jesus uses the word "neighbor" to refer to all human beings where "believers" are a subset of "neighbors".

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17. Do not no way use double negatives
In "correct" English, one is not to use double negatives. Most languages of the world use double negatives to emphasize the negative aspect of what is being said. So too does Ancient (and modern) Greek. This can create certain translation issues in the GNT (Greek New Testament).

A double negative, translated as "no wise", is used in Greek to be an emphatic negative as in "absolutely no way".

18. Greek negation
Greek has a number of words for negation.
not
These can be combined. The ancient Greek words "ου μη""not not" appear in 137 verses in the GNT. This is a negative that includes both the abstract/potential and the physical/actual.
Other uses of the double negative are usually in the logical sense where two negations do make a positive. Do you know that two positives can make a negative? Yeah, right!

19. Negation

20. Matthew 20:13
Verse routeMatthew 20:13 But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny? [kjv]
Verse routeο δε αποκριθεις ενι αυτων ειπεν εταιρε ουκ αδικω σε ουχι δηναριου συνεφωνησας μοι [gnt]

The Greek word translated as "harm" is that of "unrighteousness".

The two negatives, "no" and "not right" mean "no" "harm".

21. Matthew 20:13
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KJV: But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny?
Greek: ο δε αποκριθεις ειπεν ενι αυτων ειπεν εταιρε ουκ αδικω σε ουχι δηναριου συνεφωνησας μοι

22. Luke 1:37 Double negative with God
Verse routeLuke 1:37 For with God nothing shall be impossible. [kjv]
Verse routeοτι ουκ αδυνατησει παρα του θεου παν ρημα [gnt]

Note the double negative of "not" "impossible" is translated as "nothing" and "impossible". It appears to be a fallacy that Greek always uses a double negative as emphasis.

Possible paraphrase (using all the words): that it is (potentially) possible according to every word of God

The KJV translates as "with God" what would appear to be "of God". It appears that the idiom excuse is used to make the text say what was decided it should say. In doing so, the Greek for "of" and for "spoken word" were removed sometime in the Middle Ages so that the Greek "of God every word" changed to "with God".

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23. Luke 1:37 Not impossible with God
Verse routeLuke 1:37 For with God nothing shall be impossible. [kjv]
Verse routeοτι ουκ αδυνατησει παρα του θεου παν ρημα [gnt]
Verse routeinpossibileomne verbum [v]
Verse routeaelch word … [wes]
Verse routeeuery word … [wy]
Verse routeainhun waurde. [got]
Verse routeвсяк глаголгол. [ocs]
Verse routeникакое слово. [rus]

Paraphrase: That (it is) not impossible (potentially possible) beyond every spoken word of God.

The idea of potentially possible means that it has not happened yet. About the 16th c., the "every (spoken) word of God" disappeared. The "of God" was changed to "with God".

Before this, the following were used.

24. Strongs - uncertainly
*G82 *2 ἄδηλος (ad'-ay-los) : from G1 (as a negative particle) and G1212; hidden, figuratively, indistinct:--appear not, uncertain.
*G84 *1 ἀδήλως (ad-ay'-loce) : adverb from G82 ἄδηλος; uncertainly:--uncertainly.
Word usage per chapter Words: αδηλως

25. Usage - uncertainly
  • *G84 *1 ἀδήλως (ad-ay'-loce) : adverb from G82; uncertainly:--uncertainly.
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      •   1 Corinthians 9:26 ... run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not ...

26. 1 Corinthians 9:26 Run not with uncertainty
Verse route1 Corinthians 9:26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: [kjv]
Verse routeεγω τοινυν ουτως τρεχω ως ουκ αδηλως ουτως πυκτευω ως ουκ αερα δερων [gnt]
Verse routecurro nonincertumpugnoaerem verberans [v]

The ancient Greek word "τρέχω""run" as in a race and the English word "trek" and as the name of the bicycle company "Trek" or the "trek" in "Star Trek" or "trekie".

Why should one be able to "run" "not" with "uncertainty"?

27. Works and fire
Paul talks about works and fire and salvation. Lot appears to be an example.

Verse route1 Corinthians 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. [kjv]
Verse routeεκαστου το εργον φανερον γενησεται η γαρ ημερα δηλωσει οτι εν πυρι αποκαλυπτεται και εκαστου το εργον οποιον εστιν το πυρ αυτο δοκιμασει [gnt]
Verse route3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. [kjv]
Verse routeει τινος το εργον κατακαησεται ζημιωθησεται αυτος δε σωθησεται ουτως δε ως δια πυρος [gnt]

The ancient Greek word "δήλωσις""explanation, representation" and comes from "δηλόω""show, make known, clarify".

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28. Colossians 1:8 Declaration
Verse routeColossians 1:8 Who also declared unto us your love in the Spirit. [kjv]
Verse routeο και δηλωσας ημιν την υμων αγαπην εν πνευματι [gnt]
Verse routemanifestavitdilectionemSpiritu [v]

The ancient Greek word "δήλωσις""explanation, representation" and comes from "δηλόω""show, make known, clarify".

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29. Exodus 28:30
Verse routeExodus 28:30 And thou shalt put in the breastplate of judgment the Urim and the Thummim; and they shall be upon Aaron's heart, when he goeth in before the LORD: and Aaron shall bear the judgment of the children of Israel upon his heart before the LORD continually. [kjv]
Verse routeκαι επιθησεις επι το λογειον της κρισεως την δηλωσιν και την αληθειαν και εσται επι του στηθους ααρων οταν εισπορευηται εις το αγιον εναντιον κυριου και οισει ααρων τας κρισεις των υιων ισραηλ επι του στηθους εναντιον κυριου δια παντος [lxx]

It is not clear as to the meaning of the "Urim" and the "Thummim".

Future topic Details are left as a future topic.


30. Exodus 28:30
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KJV: And thou shalt put in the breastplate of judgment the Urim and the Thummim; and they shall be upon Aaron's heart, when he goeth in before the LORD: and Aaron shall bear the judgment of the children of Israel upon his heart before the LORD continually.
Hebrew: ונתת אל חשן המשפט את האורים ואת התמים והיו על לב אהרן בבאו לפני יהוה ונשא אהרן את משפט בני ישראל על לבו לפני יהוה תמיד׃
Greek: και επιθησεις επι το λογειον της κρισεως την δηλωσιν και την αληθειαν και εσται επι του στηθους ααρων οταν εισπορευηται εις το αγιον εναντιον κυριου και οισει ααρων τας κρισεις των υιων ισραηλ επι του στηθους εναντιον κυριου δια παντος

31. Leviticus 8:8
Verse routeLeviticus 8:8 And he put the breastplate upon him: also he put in the breastplate the Urim and the Thummim. [kjv]
Verse routeκαι επεθηκεν επ αυτην το λογειον και επεθηκεν επι το λογειον την δηλωσιν και την αληθειαν [lxx]


32. Leviticus 8:8
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KJV: And he put the breastplate upon him: also he put in the breastplate the Urim and the Thummim.
Hebrew: וישם עליו את החשן ויתן אל החשן את האורים ואת התמים׃
Greek: και επεθηκεν επ αυτην το λογειον και επεθηκεν επι το λογειον την δηλωσιν και την αληθειαν

33. Deuteronomy 33:8
Verse routeDeuteronomy 33:8 And of Levi he said, Let thy Thummim and thy Urim be with thy holy one, whom thou didst prove at Massah, and with whom thou didst strive at the waters of Meribah; [kjv]
Verse routeκαι τω λευι ειπεν δοτε λευι δηλους αυτου και αληθειαν αυτου τω ανδρι τω οσιω ον επειρασαν αυτον εν πειρα ελοιδορησαν αυτον επι υδατος αντιλογιας [lxx]


34. Deuteronomy 33:8
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KJV: And of Levi he said, Let thy Thummim and thy Urim be with thy holy one, whom thou didst prove at Massah, and with whom thou didst strive at the waters of Meribah;
Hebrew: וללוי אמר תמיך ואוריך לאיש חסידך אשר נסיתו במסה תריבהו על מי מריבה׃
Greek: και τω λευι ειπεν δοτε λευι δηλους αυτου και αληθειαν αυτου τω ανδρι τω οσιω ον επειρασαν αυτον εν πειρα ελοιδορησαν αυτον επι υδατος αντιλογιας

35. 1 Corinthians 9:26 Run not without explanation
Verse route1 Corinthians 9:26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: [kjv]
Verse routeεγω τοινυν ουτως τρεχω ως ουκ αδηλως ουτως πυκτευω ως ουκ αερα δερων [gnt]
Verse routecurro nonincertumpugnoaerem verberans [v]

The Greek word translated as "uncertainty" is that of "without explanation". That is, "not" "without explanation" does one "run". The ancient Greek word "δήλωσις""explanation, representation" and comes from "δηλόω""show, make known, clarify". The idea of "uncertainty" comes from the Latin word "incertus""uncertain, hesitating".

Why might the church want one to "run" as "not" with "uncertainty" rather than "not" with "lack of explanation"?

36. 1 Peter 3:15-16
Verse route1 Peter 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear: [kjv]
Verse routeκυριον δε τον χριστον αγιασατε εν ταις καρδιαις υμων ετοιμοι αει προς απολογιαν παντι τω αιτουντι υμας λογον περι της εν υμιν ελπιδος αλλα μετα πραυτητος και φοβου [gnt]
Verse route3:16 Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ. [kjv]
Verse routeσυνειδησιν εχοντες αγαθην ινα εν ω καταλαλεισθε καταισχυνθωσιν οι επηρεαζοντες υμων την αγαθην εν χριστω αναστροφην [gnt]

Peter makes statements about the importance of setting a good example. Those that "falsely" accuse you would be using any hypocrisy of your "conversation" (meaning all interactions, verbal or otherwise) in Christ as in "manner of life".

Note that the reason for setting a good example is not that it otherwise negates the teachings of Jesus, but that, many may not believe because, in effect, many are swayed by the "tu quoque" logic fallacy.

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37. 1 Corinthians 9:26 Island of Deios
Verse route1 Corinthians 9:26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: [kjv]
Verse routeεγω τοινυν ουτως τρεχω ως ουκ αδηλως ουτως πυκτευω ως ουκ αερα δερων [gnt]
Verse routecurro nonincertumpugnoaerem verberans [v]

The ancient Greek word "Δῆλος""Island of Deios" associated with Artemis and Apollo.
Folk etymology connects the (island) word with "δῆλος""visible, conspicuous, manifest".

38. 1 Corinthians 9:26
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KJV: I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:
Greek: εγω τοινυν ουτως τρεχω ως ουκ αδηλως ουτως πυκτευω ως ουκ αερα δερων
Latin: ego igitur sic curro non quasi in incertum sic pugno non quasi aerem verberans

39. Galatians 2:21 Frustrated translation
Verse routeGalatians 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. [kjv]
Verse routeουκ αθετω την χαριν του θεου ει γαρ δια νομου δικαιοσυνη αρα χριστος δωρεαν απεθανεν [gnt]
Verse routenon abicio gratiamlegem iustitiagratis mortuus … [v]

The Greek word translated as "frustrate" is that of "set aside".

The ancient Greek word "ἄθετος""set aside, out of position, unfixed" from the negating alpha prefix and "θετός""placed, put, adopted". The Latin word "abicio""throw or hurl down, give up, overthrow, sell cheaply".

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40. Galatians 2:21 Free gift
Verse routeGalatians 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. [kjv]
Verse routeουκ αθετω την χαριν του θεου ει γαρ δια νομου δικαιοσυνη αρα χριστος δωρεαν απεθανεν [gnt]
Verse routenon abicio gratiamlegem iustitiagratis mortuus … [v]

The Greek word translated as "vain" is that of "free gift". Saying: do not look a gift horse in the mouth.

The ancient Greek word "δωρεάν""free gift"and is the source, through the Greek and later Latin name, of the English name "Dorothy" as, literally, "gift" of "God". The Latin word "gratis""free gift" and is the source of the English words "gratuity", "gratitude", etc. It is unclear how the KJV decided to translate the word as "vain".

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41. Ephesians 2:8-9
Verse routeEphesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: [kjv]
Verse routeτη γαρ χαριτι εστε σεσωσμενοι δια πιστεως και τουτο ουκ εξ υμων θεου το δωρον [gnt]
Verse route2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. [kjv]
Verse routeουκ εξ εργων ινα μη τις καυχησηται [gnt]

The Greek word translated as "lest" is that of "in order that" and "not". Both the actual "no" for "works" and the potential "no" for "boast" are used in Ephesians 2:9.

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42. Strongs - no
*G3756 *1599 οὐ (oo) : ouk ook, and (before an aspirate) ouch ookh a primary word; the absolute negative (compare G3361) adverb; no or not:--+ long, nay, neither, never, no (X man), none, (can-)not, + nothing, + special, un(-worthy), when, + without, + yet but.
Word usage per chapter Words: ου=675 ουκ=823 ουχ=106

In Bible Greek terms, "ου""not, no" is said to be an "absolute negative" and expects a "positive answer"

43. Strongs - no
*G3361 *0 μή (may) : a primary particle of qualified negation (whereas G3756 expresses an absolute denial); (adverb) not, (conjunction) lest; also (as an interrogative implying a negative answer (whereas G3756 expects an affirmative one)) whether:--any but (that), X forbear, + God forbid, + lack, lest, neither, never, no (X wise in), none, nor, (can-)not, nothing, that not, un(-taken), without. Often used in compounds in substantially the same relations.
Word usage per chapter Words: μη=1021 μηγε=8

According to Strongs and Bible Greek teachings: How does this rule work in practice?

44. Ephesians 2:9
Verse routeEphesians 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. [kjv]
Verse routeουκ εξ εργων ινα μη τις καυχησηται [gnt]


45. Ephesians 2:9
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KJV: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Greek: ουκ εξ εργων ινα μη τις καυχησηται

46. Negative comparison
Greek English Bible
Greek
Ancient
Greek
ου  not  not ‑ expects
positive answer
not ‑
concrete/actual
μη  not  not ‑ expects
negative answer
not ‑
abstract/potential
ου μη  not ‑ not  emphatic not  not actually and not potentially

It appears that the Ancient Greek meaning fits better in practice than the somewhat contrived and inconsistent Bible Greek meaning.

In Greek, the double negative idea as an emphatic not works only with two words that both mean "not". When, say, a "not" is combined with a negating alpha prefix, the logical positive results.

47. Romans 9:1 The truth lies here
Verse routeRomans 9:1 I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost, [kjv]
Verse routeαληθειαν λεγω εν χριστω ου ψευδομαι συμμαρτυρουσης μοι της συνειδησεως μου εν πνευματι αγιω [gnt]

Why does Paul need to say that he "says" the "truth"?

Paraphrase: ... I lie (in actuality) not ...

48. Romans 9:1
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KJV: I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,
Greek: αληθειαν λεγω εν χριστω ου ψευδομαι συμμαρτυρουσης μοι της συνειδησεως μου εν πνευματι αγιω

49. Romans 13:9
Verse routeRomans 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. [kjv]
Verse routeτο γαρ ου μοιχευσεις ου φονευσεις ου κλεψεις ουκ επιθυμησεις και ει τις ετερα εντολη εν τω λογω τουτω ανακεφαλαιουται εν τω αγαπησεις τον πλησιον σου ως σεαυτον [gnt]

The TR adds "not" "bear false witness".

50. Romans 13:9
   Romans 13:9 
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KJV: For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Greek: το γαρ ου μοιχευσεις ου φονευσεις ου κλεψεις ου ψευδομαρτυρησεις ουκ ουκ επιθυμησεις και ει τις ετερα εντολη εν τουτω τω λογω τουτω ανακεφαλαιουται εν τω αγαπησεις τον πλησιον σου ως εαυτον σεαυτον

51. 2 Corinthians 11:31
Verse route2 Corinthians 11:31 The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not. [kjv]
Verse routeο θεος και πατηρ του κυριου ιησου οιδεν ο ων ευλογητος εις τους αιωνας οτι ου ψευδομαι [gnt]

Why does someone need to say that they do "not" "lie"?

52. 2 Corinthians 11:31
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KJV: The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not.
Greek: ο θεος και πατηρ του κυριου ημων ιησου χριστου οιδεν ο ων ευλογητος εις τους αιωνας οτι ου ψευδομαι

53. Galatians 1:20
Verse routeGalatians 1:20 Now the things which I write unto you, behold, before God, I lie not. [kjv]
Verse routeα δε γραφω υμιν ιδου ενωπιον του θεου οτι ου ψευδομαι [gnt]

Why does someone need to say that they do "not" "lie"?

54. Galatians 1:20
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KJV: Now the things which I write unto you, behold, before God, I lie not.
Greek: α δε γραφω υμιν ιδου ενωπιον του θεου οτι ου ψευδομαι

55. 1 Timothy 2:7
Verse route1 Timothy 2:7 Where unto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity. [kjv]
Verse routeεις ο ετεθην εγω κηρυξ και αποστολος αληθειαν λεγω ου ψευδομαι διδασκαλος εθνων εν πιστει και αληθεια [gnt]

Why does someone need to say that they do "not" "lie"?

It appears that Paul may not have written 1 Timothy. In this case, however, the "not" fits what might be expected.

56. 1 Timothy 2:7
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KJV: Where unto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.
Greek: εις ο ετεθην εγω κηρυξ και αποστολος αληθειαν λεγω εν χριστω ου ψευδομαι διδασκαλος εθνων εν πιστει και αληθεια

57. Deuteronomy 5:20
Verse routeDeuteronomy 5:20 Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbour. [kjv]
Verse routeου ψευδομαρτυρησεις κατα του πλησιον σου μαρτυριαν ψευδη [lxx]

Paraphrase: Do not (in actuality) bear false witness against your neighbor.

58. Deuteronomy 5:20
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KJV: Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Hebrew: ולא תענה ברעך עד שוא׃
Greek: ου ψευδομαρτυρησεις κατα του πλησιον σου μαρτυριαν ψευδη

59. Do not do so actually
Verse routeExodus 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. [kjv]
Verse routeου ψευδομαρτυρησεις κατα του πλησιον σου μαρτυριαν ψευδη [lxx]

Verse routeMatthew 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, [kjv]
Verse routeλεγει αυτω ποιας ο δε ιησους εφη το ου φονευσεις ου μοιχευσεις ου κλεψεις ου ψευδομαρτυρησεις [gnt]

Let us just look at the "false witness" and "lie" parts. In line with the LXX, Matthew records that Jesus uses the same Greek word for "not" as in Exodus and Deuteronomy.

Paraphrase: Do not (in actuality) bear false witness against your neighbor.

60. Matthew 19:18
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KJV: He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Greek: λεγει αυτω ποιας ο δε ιησους ειπεν εφη το ου φονευσεις ου μοιχευσεις ου κλεψεις ου ψευδομαρτυρησεις

61. Mark 10:19 Do not do so potentially
Verse routeMark 10:19 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother. [kjv]
Verse routeτας εντολας οιδας μη φονευσης μη μοιχευσης μη κλεψης μη ψευδομαρτυρησης μη αποστερησης τιμα τον πατερα σου και την μητερα [gnt]

What Peter remembers and tells Mark omits "adultery" and adds "defrauding" and has a different "not" than in Matthew and Exodus and Deuteronomy.

Paraphrase: Do not (potentially) bear false witness against your neighbor.

Bible Greek reasoning: Since this "not" expects a negative answer, that means one should, in fact, "lie", etc. Does that make sense?

62. Mark 10:19
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KJV: Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.
Greek: τας εντολας οιδας μη μοιχευσης μη φονευσης μη μοιχευσης μη κλεψης μη ψευδομαρτυρησης μη αποστερησης τιμα τον πατερα σου και την μητερα

63. Luke 18:20
   Luke 18:20 
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KJV: Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.
Greek: τας εντολας οιδας μη μοιχευσης μη φονευσης μη κλεψης μη ψευδομαρτυρησης τιμα τον πατερα σου και την μητερα σου

64. Luke 18:20
Verse routeLuke 18:20 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother. [kjv]
Verse routeτας εντολας οιδας μη μοιχευσης μη φονευσης μη κλεψης μη ψευδομαρτυρησης τιμα τον πατερα σου και την μητερα [gnt]

What people remember and tells Luke has a different "not" that that recorded in Matthew and Exodus.

Paraphrase: Do not (potentially) bear false witness against your neighbor.

Bible Greek reasoning: Since this "not" expects a negative answer, that means one should, in fact, "lie", etc. Does that make sense?

65. Bible Greek reasoning
Paraphrase 1: Do not (in actuality) bear false witness against your neighbor. (Exodus, Matthew)
Paraphrase 2: Do not (potentially) bear false witness against your neighbor. (Mark, Luke)

What might be the distinction between the "not" words as used in these verses? If copying were involved, who copied whom?

Bible Greek reasoning: Since the "not" in paraphrase 2 expects a negative answer, that means one should, in fact, "lie", etc. Does that make sense?

When faced with rules that do not fit, Bible Greek scholars (who appear to often lack logic skills as needed, for example, in computer science) tend to add more rules, rule exceptions, etc., until, in data science terms, they have over-fit (or memorized) the data. Perhaps the model itself needs adjusted. How about using the ancient Greek model?

[earth-centered vs. sun-centered solar system models]

66. Colossians 3:9 Potential lie
Verse routeColossians 3:9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; [kjv]
Verse routeμη ψευδεσθε εις αλληλους απεκδυσαμενοι τον παλαιον ανθρωπον συν ταις πραξεσιν αυτου [gnt]

Besides Mark and Luke, both in the rich young man encounter, the only other place in the GNT and LXX that uses the potential "not" with "lie" or "falsehood" is in Colossians 3:9.

Why would Paul use this potential "not" with "lie" here? Paul uses the actual "not" with "lie" five times elsewhere in his writings. Perhaps Paul did not actually write Colossians.

67. Colossians 3:9
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KJV: Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;
Greek: μη ψευδεσθε εις αλληλους απεκδυσαμενοι τον παλαιον ανθρωπον συν ταις πραξεσιν αυτου

68. Proverbs 24:28
Verse routeProverbs 24:28 Be not a witness against thy neighbour without cause; and deceive not with thy lips. [kjv]
Verse routeμη ισθι ψευδης μαρτυς επι σον πολιτην μηδε πλατυνου σοις χειλεσιν [lxx]
Verse routeBe not a false witness against your fellow citizen, neither exaggerate with your lips. [bs3]

The LXX has "fellow citizen" instead of "neighbor" (first part) and "exaggerate" rather than "deceive" (second part).

The "not" is the potential not since it is associated with "be" instead of with "lie".

69. Proverbs 24:28
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KJV: Be not a witness against thy neighbour without cause; and deceive not with thy lips.
Hebrew: אל תהי עד חנם ברעך והפתית בשפתיך׃
Greek: μη ισθι ψευδης μαρτυς επι σον πολιτην μηδε πλατυνου σοις χειλεσιν
Brenton: Be not a false witness against your fellow citizen, neither exaggerate with your lips.

70. Proverbs 14:5
Verse routeProverbs 14:5 A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will utter lies. [kjv]
Verse routeμαρτυς πιστος ου ψευδεται εκκαιει δε ψευδη μαρτυς αδικος [lxx]
Verse routeA faithful witness does not lie; but an unjust witness kindles falsehoods. [bs3]

In the second part, the LXX is more in line with the first part than is the KJV which is based on the HOT.

71. Proverbs 14:5
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KJV: A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will utter lies.
Hebrew: עד אמונים לא יכזב ויפיח כזבים עד שקר׃
Greek: μαρτυς πιστος ου ψευδεται εκκαιει δε ψευδη μαρτυς αδικος
Brenton: A faithful witness does not lie; but an unjust witness kindles falsehoods.

72. Matthew 5:18 Not one jot or one tittle
Verse routeMatthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. [kjv]
Verse routeαμην γαρ λεγω υμιν εως αν παρελθη ο ουρανος και η γη ιωτα εν η μια κεραια ου μη παρελθη απο του νομου εως αν παντα γενηται [gnt]

A double negative, translated as "no wise", is used in Greek to be an emphatic negative as in "absolutely no way". Using the "one cookie rule", the emphatic not "one" "jot" and not "one" "tittle" shall "pass by" means the following where there appears to be a double meaning here.

73. Romans 8:39 Dimensions
Verse routeRomans 8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. [kjv]
Verse routeουτε υψωμα ουτε βαθος ουτε τις κτισις ετερα δυνησεται ημας χωρισαι απο της αγαπης του θεου της εν χριστω ιησου τω κυριω ημων [gnt]
Verse routenether heiyth, nether depnesse, nether noon othir creature may departe vs fro the charite of God, that is in`Crist Jhesu oure Lord. [wy]

Note the use of the not uncommon double negative by Wycliffe as the Middle English phrase "nether noon""neither none, neither no one" .

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74. Romans 8:39
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KJV: Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Greek: ουτε υψωμα ουτε βαθος ουτε τις κτισις ετερα δυνησεται ημας χωρισαι απο της αγαπης του θεου της εν χριστω ιησου τω κυριω ημων
Wycliffe: nether heiyth, nether depnesse, nether noon othir creature may departe vs fro the charite of God, that is in`Crist Jhesu oure Lord.
Tyndale: nether heyth nether loweth nether eny other creature shalbe able to departe vs fro ye love of God shewed in Christ Iesu oure lorde.
Gothic: nih hauhitha nih diupitha nih gaskafts (anthara) magi uns afskaidan af friathwai gudis thizai in xristau iesu, fraujin unsaramma.
Luther: weder Hohes noch Tiefes noch keine andere Kreatur mag uns scheiden von der Liebe Gottes, die in Christo Jesu ist, unserm Herrn.

75. Mark 1:44 Double negative
Verse routeMark 1:44 And saith unto him, See thou say nothing to any man: but go thy way, shew thyself to the priest, and offer for thy cleansing those things which Moses commanded, for a testimony unto them. [kjv]
Verse routeκαι λεγει αυτω ορα μηδενι μηδεν ειπης αλλα υπαγε σεαυτον δειξον τω ιερει και προσενεγκε περι του καθαρισμου σου α προσεταξεν μωυσης εις μαρτυριον αυτοις [gnt]

The ancient Greek word "μηδείς""and not one"and comes from two words. The KJV has Jesus saying "nothing" whereas the Greek has a double negative. Most languages other than English use the double negative for emphasis of negation. English uses it for negating the logic of the negation. This causes a number of translation issues.

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76. Luke 1:37 Double negative with God
Verse routeLuke 1:37 For with God nothing shall be impossible. [kjv]
Verse routeοτι ουκ αδυνατησει παρα του θεου παν ρημα [gnt]

Note the double negative of "not" "impossible" is translated as "nothing" and "impossible". It appears to be a fallacy that Greek always uses a double negative as emphasis.

Possible paraphrase (using all the words): that it is (potentially) possible according to every word of God

The KJV translates as "with God" what would appear to be "of God". It appears that the idiom excuse is used to make the text say what was decided it should say. In doing so, the Greek for "of" and for "spoken word" were removed sometime in the Middle Ages so that the Greek "of God every word" changed to "with God".

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77. Matthew 23:3 Negation
Verse routeMatthew 23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. [kjv]
Verse routeπαντα ουν οσα εαν ειπωσιν υμιν ποιησατε και τηρειτε κατα δε τα εργα αυτων μη ποιειτε λεγεουσιν γαρ και ου ποιουσιν [gnt]

Three Greek words for negation appear in this verse. What does Jesus think of their "works" (abstract and potential) compared to their "say" (physical and actual)?

Greek, as most languages except English, use the double negative for an emphatic "not". The English requires that the middle "not" not be translated. Greek, as most languages, uses the logical negation when both words are not a plain "not".

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78. John 12:24 Negation
Verse routeJohn 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. [kjv]
Verse routeαμην αμην λεγω υμιν εαν μη ο κοκκος του σιτου πεσων εις την γην αποθανη αυτος μονος μενει εαν δε αποθανη πολυν καρπον φερει [gnt]

The KJV translates the Greek words for "if/when" "not" as "except". Does the abstract meaning of "not" make sense here?

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79. Compare Matthew and Luke
Verse routeMatthew 10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. [kjv]
Verse routeο φιλων πατερα η μητερα υπερ εμε ουκ εστιν μου αξιος και ο φιλων υιον η θυγατερα υπερ εμε ουκ εστιν μου αξιος [gnt]

Verse routeLuke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. [kjv]
Verse routeει τις ερχεται προς με και ου μισει τον πατερα εαυτου και την μητερα και την γυναικα και τα τεκνα και τους αδελφους και τας αδελφας ετι τε και την ψυχην εαυτου ου δυναται ειναι μου μαθητης [gnt]

Now we have a context for the verse in Luke about "hate" and the verse in Matthew about "love". What do each of these verses mean and how do they relate?

The key to the connection is to understand the logical meaning "more than" in Matthew 10:37. The Greek word is that of "over" which has the same logical meaning as "more than".

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80. Table comparison
Book Spoken by Jesus Same meaning Status
Matthew not (family > Jesus)  family ≤ Jesus   correct 
Luke not (family > Jesus) family < Jesus incorrect

Correct logic: Matthew writes down and reports what Jesus spoke. The incorrect logic goes as follows. Luke reports what was remembered.

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