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Matthew 18:18-20 Middle agreement to have anything done
1. Matthew 18:18-20 Middle agreement to have anything done
2. Matthew 18:18 Bind and loose
Matthew 18:18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. [kjv]
What is a traditional interpretation of this verse?
How much is opinion-based?
How much is model-based?
What is the meaning of the following words in this verse?
"whatsoever"
"bind" and "loose"
"earth" and "heaven"
The same thoughts are in Matthew 16:19, two chapters earlier, after the verse on
Peter and the
church of Jesus to be built on the
rock. Does your meaning of this verse fit that occurrence?
3. Matthew 18:18
KJV: Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Greek: αμην λεγω υμιν οσα εαν δησητε επι της γης εσται δεδεμενα εν τω ουρανω και οσα εαν λυσητε επι της γης εσται λελυμενα εν τω ουρανω
4. Matthew 18:19
KJV: Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
Greek: παλιν αμην λεγω υμιν οτι εαν δυο υμων συμφωνησωσιν εξ υμων επι της γης περι παντος πραγματος ου εαν αιτησωνται γενησεται αυτοις παρα του πατρος μου του εν ουρανοις
5. Matthew 18:20
KJV: For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Greek: ου γαρ εισιν δυο η τρεις συνηγμενοι εις το εμον ονομα εκει ειμι εν μεσω αυτων
6. Matthew 18:18-20 Middle agreement to have anything done
Matthew 18:19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. [kjv]
18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. [kjv]
Who are the "two" that shall "agree"? What is the "ask"?
What is it that is to be "done"? Is anything allowed?
Does this mean that if any "two" "agree" (no matter what), that it will be done?
Who are the
"two" or
"three" ?
What about "one" and "four", "five", "six", etc.?
What does it mean to "gather together"?
When the English does not appear to make sense without a lot of theological hand-waving and hocus pocus, there may be a simpler explanation. Linguistic analysis of the original language and logical reasoning can help.
7. Sermon on the Mount : Matthew 5:1-20
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5:17. Not come to reside in the law
5:18. Jots and tittles of the law
5:19. Birdhouse rules
5:20. Birdhouse righteousness
7:21. Not everyone will enter
7:22 Many works will not count
7:23 I never knew you. Depart !
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[7 RC + 7 KP + 7 B + 7 + 7 = 35 ARMS, plus more]
8. Bigger more complete picture
Thinking: oaths, head and hairs, yes-yes no-no
Doing: turn the cheek, walk the mile, loan, etc.
Loving: enemies (as neighbors)
Acting: not doing it, doing it
Praying: asking (not doing it). Lord's Prayer
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9. Matthew 5:29-30 Overview
Matthew 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. [kjv]
5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. [kjv]
The previous verse was from the man's point of view (e.g., groom, Jesus, God). This verse requires one to switch to the woman's point of view (e.g., bride, Church, Israel).
One reaction of the woman is to
block or
reject such advances.
10. Matthew 5:29 Body parts and animals
Matthew 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. [kjv]
ει δε ο οφθαλμος σου ο δεξιος σκανδαλιζει σε εξελε αυτον και βαλε απο σου συμφερει γαρ σοι ινα αποληται εν των μελων σου και μη ολον το σωμα σου βληθη εις γεενναν [gnt]
eye/leader
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hand/muscle
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foot/walk
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hair (strand)
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heaven/air
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land/earth
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sea/world
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land/earth
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Jesus is the
true head.
Models are more than just
opinion.
Essentially, all models are wrong, but some are useful. George Box, Statistician.
11. Build summary and verse structure
1 Passive
2 Active
3 Divorced
4 Passive
5 Active
6 Divorced
7 Model
Here is a summary build of the progression. The verse structure is as follows.
Matthew 5:27-32: adultery/separation
primary literal meaning of man and woman.
secondary (intended) meaning Christ and church, etc.
Verse groups:
27-28. Passive desire (potential adultery in the mind).
29-30. Active desire rejected/blocked
31-32. Active desire accepted/separated (actualized adultery in reality)
12. Matthew 18:2-5,10,14 Children and little ones
13. Chapter 18: Cherry picked verses and red flag
1 |
omit |
2 |
child |
3 |
children |
4 |
child |
5 |
child |
6 |
omit |
7 |
omit |
8 |
omit |
9 |
omit |
10 |
little ones |
11 |
added |
12 |
omit |
13 |
omit |
14 |
little ones |
15‑20 |
omit |
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These verses are cherry-picked.
Verses 2, 3, 4, 5, 10 and 14 are included.
Verses 1, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11, 12, 13, 15-20 are omitted.
This should raise a red flag and motivate investigation.
What do these verses actually mean in context?
Jesus, Paul, etc., use the word for a "child" to refer to believers (of all ages).
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14. Matthew 18:1 Greatest and least in the kingdom
Matthew 18:1 At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven? [kjv]
εν εκεινη τη ωρα προσηλθον οι μαθηται τω ιησου λεγοντες τις αρα μειζων εστιν εν τη βασιλεια των ουρανων [gnt]
Who is "greatest"?
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Who is "least"?
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Since chapter 17 is concerned with
"greatness" and chapter 18 starts with the question to Jesus of who is
"greatest", the question might have been motivated by chapter 17 and then that idea follows through with everything Jesus says in finishing this discourse in chapter 18.
In modern times, the "
great" are ofter called the "
elite".
15. Matthew 18:4 Humbled at the same level
Matthew 18:4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. [kjv]
οστις ουν ταπεινωσει εαυτον ως το παιδιον τουτο ουτος εστιν ο μειζων εν τη βασιλεια των ουρανων [gnt]
Who is "greatest"?
Who is "least"?
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With Jesus as the "head" , every "hair" or "believer" is both "greatest" and "least".
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Jesus has a flat organizational chart. This is similar to the semantic domain of integers in programming language theory. Top was not needed for the theory to work.
[No child left behind. No child gets ahead.]
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16. Matthew 18:6 Millstones and entrapments
Matthew 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. [kjv]
ος δ αν σκανδαλιση ενα των μικρων τουτων των πιστευοντων εις εμε συμφερει αυτω ινα κρεμασθη μυλος ονικος περι τον τραχηλον αυτου και καταποντισθη εν τω πελαγει της θαλασσης [gnt]
The
"offend",
"offense",
"offenses", etc., means to
"entrap" or
"snare" as in false teaching or deceit to lead one astray. When Jesus uses the word, it can mean
"misinterpret" as in
"entrap" yourself.
Why would someone "entrap" a "little one" as a "believer"?
To be "great". This is the theme of Matthew 18.
The ancient Greek word
"συμφέρω" ≈ "", literally "
carry together" and, as an opposite of "
different" is that of two things being similar in some ways.
[Throw someone under the bus, temple tax]
Can you
"entrap" or
"ensnare" yourself as the
"one"? Can you "
sin" against
yourself? The counter-factual example of a
"millstone" makes doing this a
very bad "
sin". Is it a "
sin"? How
bad is it? How easy or hard is it for you to "
forgive" those who
"entrap" "little ones"? How hard is it to "
forgive" those who
"entrap" "you"?
17. Matthew 18:7 Compulsion trap
Matthew 18:7 Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh! [kjv]
ουαι τω κοσμω απο των σκανδαλων αναγκη γαρ ελθειν τα σκανδαλα πλην ουαι τω ανθρωπω δι ου το σκανδαλον ερχεται [gnt]
The word "
woe" in Greek is that of a "
bird" of prey sound.
The TR (Textus Receptus) adds the word "be", adds some connecting words, and rearranges some words.
"ἀπό" ≈ "away from" as in "from" but with an idea of a separating distance.
"σκάνδαλον" ≈ "trap, snare" and is used as a noun.
"ανάγκη" ≈ "necessity, constraint, compulsion, force" and is used as a noun. The word is associated with the "yoke" of "compulsion" by Amos, Isaiah, Jesus, Barnabas, etc.
"πλήν" ≈ "with the exception of, except for".
Thus, the
compound noun is that of a
"compulsion" "trap" or
"trap" of
"compulsion". Jesus talks of this in the Sermon on the Mount in terms of the
dead "
gift" "
on" top of the "
alter" (
"trap" of
"compulsion") and the
living "
gift" "
in front of" the "
alter".
The modern Greek word
"πλην" (pleen) ≈ "except for" and is used as a "
minus sign" for the subtraction operation as in
5 "except for" 3 is
2.
18. Matthew 18:7 Compulsion trap
Matthew 18:7 Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh! [kjv]
ουαι τω κοσμω απο των σκανδαλων αναγκη γαρ ελθειν τα σκανδαλα πλην ουαι τω ανθρωπω δι ου το σκανδαλον ερχεται [gnt]
Paraphrase:
Woe with respect to the (people in the) world apart from the trap of compulsion because the entrapments come but with the exception of woe with respect to the man through whom the entrapment comes.
This appears to provide an
out of sorts to those who have been
"entrapped" by the
"compulsion" provided they do the other things that they are expected by Jesus to do. This would be the "
sheep".
However, this does not appear to provide an
out to those who have supported or promoted the
"compulsion" "entrapments". This would be the "
birds" and "
pigs". What Jesus says about "
idle words" might explain how ambiguity of intention is disambiguated.
[woe as a bird of prey cry, gift on the alter, last farthing]
19. Matthew 10:29 Not one sparrow
Matthew 10:29 Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. [kjv]
ουχι δυο στρουθια ασσαριου πωλειται και εν εξ αυτων ου πεσειται επι την γην ανευ του πατρος υμων [gnt]
Here then is a paraphrase that fits the specific context of the verse and the general idea of birds being the of the evil one.
The "
one cookie rule" can be applied here.
Paraphrase:
All the sparrows (of the evil one) who sell themselves (or others) out for earthly gain will fall on that earthly ground because they are without God the Father.
Discuss: Provide instances of people (as sparrows) selling themselves (or others) out for money. This could be influence peddling, pay for play, etc.
20. Matthew 10:28 Soul and body
Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. [kjv]
και μη φοβεισθε απο των αποκτεινοντων το σωμα την δε ψυχην μη δυναμενων αποκτειναι φοβεισθε δε μαλλον τον δυναμενον και ψυχην και σωμα απολεσαι εν γεεννη [gnt]
Jesus tells us who we should
"fear" and it is not
"fear" about the
cares and
concerns of this world. The most dangerous attacks are not from the outside but from the inside and involve
deception.
One cannot "
destroy the soul" by
"killing" the body is in persecution (e.g., by the Roman administrations). The primary way to
"destroy" the "
soul" is through
deception so that you "
sell yourself out" or are "
sold out".
Jesus provides an example in the
next verse.
21. Matthew 10:29-31 Soul and body
22. Matthew 18:12-14 Sheep astray on a mountain of definitions
Matthew 18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? [kjv]
18:13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. [kjv]
Why did the chicken cross the road?
To get to the other side. And many other answers.
Why did the one sheep go "astray"?
Why is there such "joy" for that one "sheep" "more" than the others?
Why did the sheep go onto the mountain?
To be "great". This is the theme of the entire discourse.
23. Matthew 18:12 On the mountains
Matthew 18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? [kjv]
τι υμιν δοκει εαν γενηται τινι ανθρωπω εκατον προβατα και πλανηθη εν εξ αυτων ουχι αφησει τα ενενηκοντα εννεα επι τα ορη και πορευθεις ζητει το πλανωμενον [gnt]
The ancient Greek word
"πρόβατα" ≈ "sheep" and comes from the literal words "
before" and "
walk". Sheep have a tendency to "
walk before" or "
wander away". Jesus wants "
believers" to "
walk" "
before" with "
good works". In that sense, the Greek word for
"sheep" is a fitting linguistic analogy.
The "man" does not just "have" the "sheep". The "sheep" "come into being".
The "man" does not "leave" them. They are "forgiven". Same Greek word.
The word for "goeth" is the same word used in the Great Commission.
Why did the "one" "sheep" go "on" or "onto" the "mountains"?
Who might this "one" "sheep" be?
Why might it be important that it is the first "one" of the "hundred" to do so?
What are some of the traditional explanations to these questions?
24. Separation build
Here is a build summary of the steps.
25. Attracting sheep and fish
Obviously, seeing
"one" "sheep" going "
onto" a
"mountain" or
"definition" to be
"great" and needing to attract others to be "
great" is a concern. What should one do about this?
The idea of "
joined" together as in "
glued" together will be the topic of the next discourse at the start of the next chapter,
22 verses later.
But what if the
"sheep" that has become a
"bird" and attracted others leave
"you" the
"one" alone?
How does the group decide which "
one" is
right and which "
one" is
wrong? Check the next verses on conflict resolution to resolve both scenarios.
26. Church conflict review
Consider
two viewpoints of the same phenomena from Matthew 18:15-17.
Discuss:
Why is it important that no action be taken against the individual and why might such actions not have been included in the guidelines provided by Jesus?
Discuss:
Do churches that have established a book of discipline, or something similar, violated what Jesus says in Matthew 18:15-17
Are we "
better together"? Are we "
better apart"? Jesus answers this question in the next verses. [Paul, Early Church Fathers, Catholic Church]
An issue with "
division" without "
action" is when the "
gathering of believers" has stored up "
treasure" on earth in terms of property, buildings, investments, etc. In any division, each side tends to want that "
treasure".
27. Matthew 18:8-9 Cut out and pluck out
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Matthew 18:8 Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire. [kjv]
18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire. [kjv]
If you make the wrong choice, you are not "better together".
You have two ways to relate to others: "fellow believer" or "neighbor".
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28. Variations on a theme
It may not be clear which group is right or wrong. Do not be deceived.
You need to make your best choice and "glue" yourself to the best choice and "distance" yourself from the other choice. You live or are lost by that choice.
Two ways to relate to others: "fellow believer" or "neighbor".
Correct "actions" such as "good works" matter. What one "thinks" does not appear to matter.
The mathematical idea of the
equivalence relation "
agrees that x is a sin" divides a group into two separate
equivalence classes. Has this happened in recent times? What is "
x" in the relation?
29. Referential transparency
Mathematical functions can be considered black boxes that, given an
input, provide an
output. This is much like a computer program. In a
black box function, you cannot see inside. You should not "
judge" or "
separate" based on the internal workings of the box - which you cannot see nor fully understand. Instead, you should "
judge" or "
separate" based on the external behavior of the box.
The principle of
referential transparency can be stated as follows.
If f(x) is equal to g(x) for all x in the domain of concern, then function f is equal to function g.
That is, if
f and
g are provided input
x and both produce output
y, for the domain of concern they can be considered the same.
The Greek word for "
judge" or "
separate" is related to the Greek word for "
barley".
30. Matthew 18:18 Binding and loosing
Matthew 18:18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. [kjv]
αμην λεγω υμιν οσα εαν δησητε επι της γης εσται δεδεμενα εν ουρανω και οσα εαν λυσητε επι της γης εσται λελυμενα εν ουρανω [gnt]
The "
kingdom of heaven" or "
kingdom of the air", as used by Jesus, appears to refer to both
good and
bad parts of time and space on earth.
For good or for bad, what is bound or loosed on
earth is vacuously done in
heaven or
air.
☐ What you
do, you
do. What you do not
do, you do not
do.
☐ What you
say, you
say. What you do not
say, you do not
say.
☐ What you
think, you
think. What you do not
think, you do not
think.
As such, this verse might appear to be a
distractor verse that, as a
tautology, some will
misinterpret to
deceive or
entrap themselves into thinking that they can do anything they want to do in the name of the church.
31. Referential transparency
Matthew 18:18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. [kjv]
The "
whatsoever" is translated from two Greek words.
"ὅσα" ≈ "as far as" which is a synonym of "ὡς" ≈ "like, as, according to". This word indicates that there may be exceptions to what follows.
"ἐάν" ≈ "if, when". This is a conditional that is dependent on the following precondition for the following postcondition to apply (bottom-up reasoning).
The Greek appears to be that of an
analogy and
not a
reality. The English appears to make it more of a reality.
32. Matthew 18:18 Connections
Matthew 18:18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. [kjv]
Discuss:
Does this verse seem out of place with the context before and after?
Have churches throughout history misinterpreted this verse to give them authority to make decisions about or judge others?
Jesus will refer to "
binding" or "
gluing" in 22 verses. But Matthew 18:18 is the end of the discourse except for the "
again" review.
The next words spoken by Jesus, omitting the "
again" review, that are written by Matthew are the ideas of "
binding" or "
gluing" and "
loosing" or "
separating".
33. Matthew 18:18 Connections
Matthew 18:18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. [kjv]
An insight of verse 15-17 was that, given the facts, "
glue" yourself to the best choice and "
separate" yourself by "
plucking out" or "
cutting off" from the other choice. You live or are lost by that choice.
Consider a reflexive interpretation of verse 18 - the end of the discourse before the "
again" review.
☐ What or who you "
bind" or "
glue" yourself to will be "
bound" or "
glued".
☐ What or who you "
loose" or "
distance" or "
separate" yourself from will be "
loosed" or "
distanced" or "
separated".
34. Matthew 19:5-6 Glued and separated
Matthew 19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? [kjv]
και ειπεν ενεκα τουτου καταλειψει ανθρωπος τον πατερα και την μητερα και κολληθησεται τη γυναικι αυτου και εσονται οι δυο εις σαρκα μιαν [gnt]
19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. [kjv]
ωστε ουκετι εισιν δυο αλλα σαρξ μια ο ουν ο θεος συνεζευξεν ανθρωπος μη χωριζετω [gnt]
What is put together is
"one". That is, "
man" and "
wife" but, in analogy, "
Jesus" and "
church", "
Jesus" and
"you". What type of "
man" would try to "
separate" the "
church" or a
"little one" or
"believer" from "
Jesus"? Perhaps by way of
"entrapment".
The Greek word for "
separate" is the source of the English word
"horizon" and comes from the Greek word for
"mountain" as a place where one goes to be
"great".
35. Matthew 19:4
KJV: And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
Greek: ο δε αποκριθεις ειπεν αυτοις ουκ ανεγνωτε οτι ο ποιησας κτισας απ αρχης αρσεν και θηλυ εποιησεν αυτους
36. Matthew 19:5
KJV: And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
Greek: και ειπεν ενεκεν ενεκα τουτου καταλειψει ανθρωπος τον πατερα και την μητερα και προσκολληθησεται κολληθησεται τη γυναικι αυτου και εσονται οι δυο εις σαρκα μιαν
37. Matthew 19:6
KJV: Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
Greek: ωστε ουκετι εισιν δυο αλλα σαρξ μια ο ουν ο θεος συνεζευξεν ανθρωπος μη χωριζετω
38. Matthew 18:19 Again
Matthew 18:19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. [kjv]
παλιν αμην λεγω υμιν οτι εαν δυο συμφωνησωσιν εξ υμων επι της γης περι παντος πραγματος ου εαν αιτησωνται γενησεται αυτοις παρα του πατρος μου του εν ουρανοις [gnt]
The ancient Greek word
"πάλιν" ≈ "again, once more" and can mean
"back in time" and is related to the ancient Greek word
"παλιά" ≈ "old". The modern Greek word
"πάλιν" (PA-leen) ≈ "again".
Hebrew (often) uses repetition of the same thing in different ways so that one does
not misinterpret what is being said. This appears to be mostly for small sound-bites.
Dilbert manager: If you do not understand, try saying it
slower and
louder.
How does
Jesus say the same thing in different ways for entire discourses so that one does not misinterpret what he is saying? Jesus sometimes uses the word
"again". So when Jesus says
"again", one should look at what has just been said (i.e., in that same discourse) to see to what the
"again" refers.
The
TR adds the "
of you" which
breaks the pattern model of the discourse where
one of the
two is
Jesus.
39. Matthew 18:19 Shall be done
Matthew 18:19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. [kjv]
παλιν αμην λεγω υμιν οτι εαν δυο συμφωνησωσιν εξ υμων επι της γης περι παντος πραγματος ου εαν αιτησωνται γενησεται αυτοις παρα του πατρος μου του εν ουρανοις [gnt]
The Greek for
"become" (verse 3) or
"shall be done" (verse 19) is that of
"come into being" using the same word that in John 3 was taken as
"born again".
The ancient Greek word
"γίγνομαι" ≈ "come into being" and is the source of the English word
"genesis". The context may indicated being born, being produced, taking place, etc.
The Greek word for "
agree" used here is that of "
same voice" and is the source of the English word
"symphony". That should be
music to your
ears. The "
on the earth" is of the same form as the previous verse and "
binding" and "
loosing".
Who are the "
two" that "
agree"?
40. Matthew 18:3,5,19 Two that agree
Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. [kjv]
18:5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me. [kjv]
18:19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. [kjv]
The "one" "little one" is you (one cookie rule).
If you "receive" or "accept" Jesus, then Jesus is with you.
Thus, you and Jesus are the two.
If Jesus does not agree, it will not "come into being".
If you do not agree, it will not "come into being".
Both you and Jesus must agree for it to "come into being".
This is a
logical conjunction. You can
separate yourself (e.g., by wanting to be the
"greatest").
41. Matthew 18:19 Two that agree
Matthew 18:19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. [kjv]
First time:
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Again:
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What a nice pair! Could anything possible happen to destroy this relationship?
How about "
fish" as "
feet", "
pigs" as "
hands", "
birds" as "
eyes"? They
all want to be
"great" and at your expense.
Will Jesus be there when you need him?
42. Matthew 18:20 Two or three gathered
Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. [kjv]
ου γαρ εισιν δυο η τρεις συνηγμενοι εις το εμον ονομα εκει ειμι εν μεσω αυτων [gnt]
Who are the "two" or "three" ?
What about "one" and "four", "five", "six", etc.?
What does it mean to "gather together" "into" the "name" of Jesus?
If Jesus is in the "middle", then Jesus is not with anyone who is "gathered together" on the "outside". Is that close enough for government work? Does Jesus need to be "glued" to you as in "inside" of you?
The
"again" from the previous verse appears to still be in force since this is the end of the discourse. The verse boundaries were established in the Middle Ages.
Let us
not use an open-ended
opinion by making up some reason or rationalization.
Where have we seen
"two" or
"three" during the discourse?
43. Matthew 18:6-7 Two or three
Matthew 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. [kjv]
18:7 Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh! [kjv]
Those who would be
"greatest", such as "
sheep" who become "
birds" or "
eyes", "
pigs" or "
hands", "
fish" or "
feet" will try to
"ensnare" or
"entrap" the
"sheep" or
"little one" or
you.
Where have we seen
"two" or
"three" during the discourse?
44. Matthew 18:8-9,20 Two or three
The "
hand" or "
pig" and the "
foot" or "
fish" constitute
"two" .
Matthew 18:8 Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire. [kjv]
The "
eye" or "
bird" adds one more to constitute
"three" .
18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire. [kjv]
Are those
"gathering together" also "
sitting together"? The Greek word for "
council" as "
sitting together" can be a play on words with "
together three". Who is in the
"midst" besides Jesus?
18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. [kjv]
ου γαρ εισιν δυο η τρεις συνηγμενοι εις το εμον ονομα εκει ειμι εν μεσω αυτων [gnt]
45. Matthew 18:2,5,20 In the midst
Matthew 18:2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, [kjv]
18:5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me. [kjv]
18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. [kjv]
The ancient Greek word
"μέσος" ≈ "middle, between" as in the (first part of the) English word
"Mesopotamia".
18:5 "on" the "name" of mine (resting in place).
18:20: "into" the "name" of mine (moving, may not get there).
You are that
"one" "little child" in the
"middle". Jesus is in the
"middle" with you to help "
block" those "
two" or "
three" that have "
gathered together" to use you to be "
greatest" by any means possible, including
force,
deception, etc.
46. Matthew 18:20 Two or three
Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. [kjv]
These "
two" or "
three" appear to be the "
hand", "
foot" (for "
two") and "
eye" (for "
three") that
"gather together" for the purpose of
"entrapment".
From the previous verses:
You as the "one" "little one" "accepts" "on" the "name" (of Jesus).
The "two" or "three" "gather together" "into" the "name" (of Jesus).
You are
not alone. Jesus is in the "
middle" with
you, if you
both "
agree", to help withstand the
"entrapment" of the "
hand", "
foot" and "
eye" as they attempt to
"entrap" you and as you try to "
block" them ("
cut" or "
pluck" them out and "
cast" away).
47. Usage - gathered together
*G4863 *59 συνάγω (soon-ag'-o) : from G4862 and G71; to lead together, i.e. collect or convene; specially, to entertain (hospitably):--+ accompany, assemble (selves, together), bestow, come together, gather (selves together, up, together), lead into, resort, take in.
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Words: συναγαγειν=3 συναγαγετε=2 συναγαγη συναγαγοντες=2 συναγαγουση συναγαγων=2 συναγει συναγεται συναγονται=2 συναγουσιν=2 συναγω συναγων=3 συναξει συναξω=2 συναχθεντες συναχθεντων συναχθηναι=2 συναχθησονται=2 συναχθητε συνηγαγεν συνηγαγετε=2 συνηγαγομεν συνηγαγον=4 συνηγμενα συνηγμενοι=3 συνηγμενων=3 συνηχθη=4 συνηχθησαν=9
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Jesus uses one word once and another twice.
Matthew 18:20: ... two or three gathered together into my name ...
Matthew 24:28: ... the eagles/vultures gathered together ... (end times)
Matthew 25:32: ... all nations gathered together ... (sheep and goats)
48. Matthew 24:28
Matthew 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. [kjv]
οπου εαν η το πτωμα εκει συναχθησονται οι αετοι [gnt]
In the "
Olivet Discourse" in Matthew 24, Jesus is asked by his disciples and talks about the "
End Times" or "
All of It".
The "
carcase" is that of "
corpse" is
related to the Greek word for "
fallen ones" or "
poor" which Jesus uses as a figurative reference for those who need the "
Good News".
It appears that in the "
End Times", the "
birds" who prey on others have run out of dead bodies (dead in Christ) on which to prey (or pray).
It is a (today somewhat politically incorrect) instance of a statement of "
too many Chiefs (birds) and not enough Indians (corpses or fish)" (where the word "
chief" is a French word related to "
chef").
49. Matthew 18:19-20 Comparison
50. Comparison
First time:
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Again:
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The "
snares" of "
entrapment" of those
"gathered together" "against" the
"name" of Jesus and
"against" the
"little one" as
"believers" (of any age) are such
"great" "
sins" such that a
"millstone" analogy is used by Jesus.
What is a next logical question to be asked by someone who is attentively following what Jesus has been saying?
How often do I need to forgive these people that do such great sins such a little one as me? Seven times? To deflect from the religious establishment, one might make Peter look foolish as in asking a stupid question and then go on to lecture the sheep about forgiveness and ignore the need from the religious establishment to follow these rules. Jesus appears to foresee this and ends with the parable of the ungrateful servant who appears to fit the bird model.
51. Matthew 18:2,5,19-20 Build
Matthew 18:2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, [kjv]
18:5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me. [kjv]
18:19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. [kjv]
18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. [kjv]
The
"sheep" are those that have
"come into being" and are
"forgiven".
52. Matthew 13:45-46 One pearl
Matthew 13:45 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls: [kjv]
παλιν ομοια εστιν η βασιλεια των ουρανων εμπορω ζητουντι καλους μαργαριτας [gnt]
… margaritas [v]
13:46 Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it. [kjv]
ευρων δε ενα πολυτιμον μαργαριτην απελθων πεπρακεν παντα οσα ειχεν και ηγορασεν αυτον [gnt]
Revelation defines a "
merchant man" as a "
great one of the earth". Why might a
"great" one of the earth sell everything, but not himself, to obtain
"one" pearl? Are not "
many" pearls needed. That is, at least
two pearls, needed. If everything is sold to buy
one pearl, which pearls are thus
not obtained? Obtaining only
one pearl is like having one link in a chain. From Matthew 18, that
"one" or
"sheep" or
"little one" might be you! Have you been "
bought" to help someone else be
"great"?
Might the two most important laws identified by Jesus be
two "pearls". Both are needed. What happens if one obtains only
one of these
"pearls"?
53. Matthew 18:20-21 Sin against my name and you
Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. [kjv]
18:21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? [kjv]
Translators tend to take great liberty in translating the Greek.
18:20 .. gathered together in my name ...
18:21 ... sin against me ...
Using the same meaning for the same word results in the two following choices. One way:
18:20 .. gathered together into my name ... (and "you")
18:21 ... sin into me ... (as the "you")
The other way:
18:20 .. gathered together against my name ... (and "you")
18:21 ... sin against me ... (as the "you")
There may be other ways. In the preceding verses, the
"little ones" or
"believers" (of any age) were connected with
"you" as the
"one" (one cookie rule).
The same word
"εις" ≈ "into"where the meaning can be modified by context.
54. Matthew 18:21 Peter interrupts
Matthew 18:21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? [kjv]
τοτε προσελθων ο πετρος ειπεν αυτω κυριε ποσακις αμαρτησει εις εμε ο αδελφος μου και αφησω αυτω εως επτακις [gnt]
Peter then
interrupts with a question which some pastors attribute to Peter making awkward statements. Peter tends to think as a scientist. What did Jesus say that might have lead Peter to make such an interruption?
Perhaps Peter added
2 (agreeing) plus
2 (gathered together) plus
3 (gathered together) to get
7.
Verse 1 says "
at that same time". The verses right before in chapter 17 are for Peter to go get a "
fish" and take the "
coin" from the "
mouth" of the "
fish" and give it to the religious authorities "
in place of" Jesus and Peter. Peter had not yet done this and had a lot on his mind at the time.
55. Matthew 18:21
KJV: Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
Greek: τοτε προσελθων αυτω ο πετρος ειπεν αυτω κυριε ποσακις αμαρτησει εις εμε ο αδελφος μου και αφησω αυτω εως επτακις
56. 1 Timothy 6:10 Silver
1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. [kjv]
ριζα γαρ παντων των κακων εστιν η φιλαργυρια ης τινες ορεγομενοι απεπλανηθησαν απο της πιστεως και εαυτους περιεπειραν οδυναις πολλαις [gnt]
The ancient Greek word
"φιλαργυρια" ≈ "love of silver" and which is translated as
"covertness" or
"love of money" comes from
"φίλος" ≈ "that which is loved or important, friend" and
"ἄργυρος" ≈ "silver".
Discuss: Which is the root of
all evil?
The "desire of money".
The "desire to be greatest".
The "desire to have dominion over other human beings".
Something else.
57. Genesis 1:26,28 Replenish and dominion
Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. [kjv]
και ειπεν ο θεος ποιησωμεν ανθρωπον κατ εικονα ημετεραν και καθ ομοιωσιν και αρχετωσαν των ιχθυων της θαλασσης και των πετεινων του ουρανου και των κτηνων και πασης της γης και παντων των ερπετων των ερποντων επι της γης [lxx]
1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. [kjv]
και ηυλογησεν αυτους ο θεος λεγων αυξανεσθε και πληθυνεσθε και πληρωσατε την γην και κατακυριευσατε αυτης και αρχετε των ιχθυων της θαλασσης και των πετεινων του ουρανου και παντων των κτηνων και πασης της γης και παντων των ερπετων των ερποντων επι της γης [lxx]
The word "
replenish" means to "
fill up" or, in Greek, "
complete". Man is to have "
dominion" over the "
fish", "
birds", "
pigs", "
wolves", "
snakes", etc., but
not over other men. Is this a "
root" of "
evil"? Would men as "
fish", "
birds", "
pigs", "
wolves", "
snakes", etc., ever attempt to have "
dominion" over men such as "
sheep"?
58. Matthew 5:29-30 Overview
Matthew 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. [kjv]
5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. [kjv]
The previous verse was from the man's point of view (e.g., groom, Jesus, God). This verse requires one to switch to the woman's point of view (e.g., bride, Church, Israel).
One reaction of the woman is to
block or
reject such advances.
59. Matthew 5:31-32 Cutout the adultery and divorce
Matthew 5:31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: [kjv]
5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery. [kjv]
The
KJV (King James Version) translates as
"cause" and
"causeth" the Greek words that do
not mean "
cause".
One reaction is to
allow or
accept such advances. This is
fornication. The
husband can then
divorce or
separate from or
put away the
woman. The
man who then
marries the
woman commits
active adultery as does the
woman.
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