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2 Timothy 3:1-12 Silly women in the she shed
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1. Odd and even
Yin yang

In ancient Greek thinking, numbers are even or odd.
Palindrome: Never odd or even. What are the odds that you would even know this?
Did you hear the joke about odd numbers?
Why did the two nuclear physicists die?


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2. Universal quantification
For allUniversal quantification involves "for all" within a certain domain set.

The symbol "" is read as "for all".
An example is as follows. This is read as "for all x in the set 1, 3, 5, x is an odd number"

3. Romans 3:23 All have sinned
Verse routeRomans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; [kjv]
Verse routeπαντες γαρ ημαρτον και υστερουνται της δοξης του θεου [gnt]

Church of true Christians
If sinners were not allowed in church, there would be no one allowed in church.

The Greek here for "all" is plural which means there may be exceptions. Who might be an exception?
The ancient Greek word "ἁμαρτία""error, mistake, fault, sin" as in, literally, "not a witness". The Greek for "glory" is that of "opinion". Anything that is "not a witness" for God "falls short" or "lags behind" of God's "opinion" or "expectation".

In logical reasoning, one should not universally quantify something without specifying the domain to which it applies and how it applies. The "for all" would appear to refer to "men" who are not "God" (as in "Jesus").

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Paraphrase: For all have not been a (good) witness (of God) and not approached the opinion of God


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4. Romans 3:23 Glory of God
Verse routeRomans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; [kjv]
Verse routeπαντες γαρ ημαρτον και υστερουνται της δοξης του θεου [gnt]

Do we need to come up to the "glory" of God? Perhaps a pastor could help us with that seemingly unattainable quest.
Paraphrase: All (with possible exceptions) have not been a (good) witness (for God) and have lagged behind the opinion/expectation of God.

It appears we do not have to reach the level of God. God has an expectation/opinion of where we should be and we are lagging behind that expectation/opinion. This appears to be in line with Eastern Orthodox thought.

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5. 2 Timothy 3:1
 All 
KJV: This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
Greek: τουτο δε γινωσκε οτι εν εσχαταις ημεραις ενστησονται καιροι χαλεποι
Latin: hoc autem scito quod in novissimis diebus instabunt tempora periculosa

6. 2 Timothy 3:6
 All 
KJV: For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
Greek: εκ τουτων γαρ εισιν οι ενδυνοντες εις τας οικιας και αιχμαλωτευοντες τα αιχμαλωτιζοντες γυναικαρια σεσωρευμενα αμαρτιαις αγομενα επιθυμιαις ποικιλαις
Latin: ex his enim sunt qui penetrant domos et captivas ducunt mulierculas oneratas peccatis quae ducuntur variis desideriis

7. 2 Timothy 3:7
 All 
KJV: Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Greek: παντοτε μανθανοντα και μηδεποτε εις επιγνωσιν αληθειας ελθειν δυναμενα

8. 2 Timothy 3:1-12 Silly women in the she shed
Verse route2 Timothy 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, [kjv]

The chapter of 2 Timothy has only 17 verses. An interesting verse is the one translated by the KJV (King James Version) as "silly" "women". As a distractor, many ARMS (Attractive Refrigerator Magnet Sermons) focus on the phrase "silly" "women".

The context of the "last days" is important in understanding the meaning of the verse.


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9. She sheds
A "she shed" is the female version of the "man cave". This could be a room of a house but is often a small building not attached to the house.

Related phrases:

10. Pretty woman
Verse route2 Timothy 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, [kjv]

The song "Oh, Pretty Woman" was recorded (and written, with Bill Dees) by Roy Orbison and released on August 26, 1964. The lyrics start as "Pretty woman, walking down the street ...".
For 2 Timothy 3:6, one can think of the lyrics, "Silly women, talking in the house ..."

11. Magnet sermons
Verse route2 Timothy 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, [kjv]

Read the next verse.
Verse route3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. [kjv]
Verse routeπαντοτε μανθανοντα και μηδεποτε εις επιγνωσιν αληθειας ελθειν δυναμενα [gnt]

Those refrigerator magnet sermons may never get to a knowledge of the truth! For context, let us go back to the beginning of the chapter.

Paul is writing to Timothy, Bishop of Ephesus. Ephesus is a center of Greek culture, science, philosophy, etc. Paul often uses Greek words that relate to the audience to whom Timothy is serving.

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12. 2 Timothy 3:1
Verse route2 Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. [kjv]
Verse routeτουτο δε γινωσκε οτι εν εσχαταις ημεραις ενστησονται καιροι χαλεποι [gnt]
Verse routenovissimis diebustempora periculosa [v]

Paul writes these warnings for the "last" "days". The ancient Greek word"ἔσχατος""farthest, most remote, last, final, extreme" and is the source of the English word "eschatology" as a "study of the end times".

The ancient Greek word "‎ἡμέρᾱ""day, time".

When asked by the disciples, Jesus talks of the "last" "days" in the "Olivet Discourse" where he talks of "all of it" (play on words).

13. Matthew 24: The Olivet discourse
Verse routeMatthew 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? [kjv]
Verse routeκαθημενου δε αυτου επι του ορους των ελαιων προσηλθον αυτω οι μαθηται κατ ιδιαν λεγοντες ειπον ημιν ποτε ταυτα εσται και τι το σημειον της σης παρουσιας και συντελειας του αιωνος [gnt]

In Matthew, when the disciples ask about the last days, Jesus talks about the last days in the Olivet discourse, where he talks about "all of it" as in "Ol-i-vet".

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14. 2 Timothy 3:1 Difficult seasons
Verse route2 Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. [kjv]
Verse routeτουτο δε γινωσκε οτι εν εσχαταις ημεραις ενστησονται καιροι χαλεποι [gnt]
Verse routenovissimis diebustempora periculosa [v]

The ancient Greek word "χαλεπός""difficult, painful, cruel". The idea of "perilous" comes from the Latin word "periculosus""dangerous, perilous".

Paul uses the word "καιρός""measure, period of time, season" which will be used many times in chapters 3 and 4. When Paul repeats words and uses them in other words, it may be important.

15. Fierce and difficult times
Verse route2 Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. [kjv]
Verse routeτουτο δε γινωσκε οτι εν εσχαταις ημεραις ενστησονται καιροι χαλεποι [gnt]
Verse routenovissimis diebustempora periculosa [v]

Verse routeMatthew 8:28 And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way. [kjv]
Verse routeκαι ελθοντος αυτου εις το περαν εις την χωραν των γαδαρηνων υπηντησαν αυτω δυο δαιμονιζομενοι εκ των μνημειων εξερχομενοι χαλεποι λιαν ωστε μη ισχυειν τινα παρελθειν δια της οδου εκεινης [gnt]

The ancient Greek word "χαλεπός""difficult, painful, cruel".

The KJV translates as "might" as a variation of the Greek word for "strong" as in "strongly" "difficult"

16. Matthew 8:28
   Matthew 8:28 
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KJV: And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way.
Greek: και ελθοντι αυτω ελθοντος αυτου εις το περαν εις την χωραν των γεργεσηνων γαδαρηνων υπηντησαν αυτω δυο δαιμονιζομενοι εκ των μνημειων εξερχομενοι χαλεποι λιαν ωστε μη ισχυειν τινα παρελθειν δια της οδου εκεινης

17. Isaiah 18:2
Verse routeIsaiah 18:2 That sendeth ambassadors by the sea, even in vessels of bulrushes upon the waters, saying, Go, ye swift messengers, to a nation scattered and peeled, to a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden down, whose land the rivers have spoiled ! [kjv]
Verse routeο αποστελλων εν θαλασση ομηρα και επιστολας βυβλινας επανω του υδατος πορευσονται γαρ αγγελοι κουφοι προς εθνος μετεωρον και ξενον λαον και χαλεπον τις αυτου επεκεινα εθνος ανελπιστον και καταπεπατημενον νυν οι ποταμοι της γης [lxx]

The LXX (Septuagint) has both the words for "apostle" as "one sent" and "letter" or "message sent" in the same verse.

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18. Isaiah 18:2
Verse routeIsaiah 18:2 That sendeth ambassadors by the sea, even in vessels of bulrushes upon the waters, saying, Go, ye swift messengers, to a nation scattered and peeled, to a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden down, whose land the rivers have spoiled ! [kjv]
Verse routeο αποστελλων εν θαλασση ομηρα και επιστολας βυβλινας επανω του υδατος πορευσονται γαρ αγγελοι κουφοι προς εθνος μετεωρον και ξενον λαον και χαλεπον τις αυτου επεκεινα εθνος ανελπιστον και καταπεπατημενον νυν οι ποταμοι της γης [lxx]

The KJV translates the Hebrew as "bulrushes". The LXX has the "βύβλινος""made of papyrus" that came from "βῠ́βλος""papyrus, book" and that became the word for "book".

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19. Isaiah 18:2
   Isaiah 18:2 
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KJV: That sendeth ambassadors by the sea, even in vessels of bulrushes upon the waters, saying, Go, ye swift messengers, to a nation scattered and peeled, to a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden down, whose land the rivers have spoiled !
Hebrew: השלח בים צירים ובכלי גמא על פני מים לכו מלאכים קלים אל גוי ממשך ומורט אל עם נורא מן הוא והלאה גוי קו קו ומבוסה אשר בזאו נהרים ארצו׃
Greek: ο αποστελλων εν θαλασση ομηρα και επιστολας βυβλινας επανω του υδατος πορευσονται γαρ αγγελοι κουφοι προς εθνος μετεωρον και ξενον λαον και χαλεπον τις αυτου επεκεινα εθνος ανελπιστον και καταπεπατημενον νυν οι ποταμοι της γης

20. Strongs - difficult

21. Usage - difficult
*G5467 *2 χαλεπός (khal-ep-os') : perhaps from G5465 through the idea of reducing the strength; difficult, i.e. dangerous, or (by implication) furious:--fierce, perilous.
Word usage per chapter Words: χαλεποι=2


22. 2 Timothy 3:2-4 List of sins
Paul then lists a laundry list of sins of the "last days" - spanning three verses. Keep this list in mind to understand the verses that follow. What is the common thread in these sins? Men are odd (lacking) while women are even (complete).

Verse route2 Timothy 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, [kjv]
Verse route3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, [kjv]
Verse route3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; [kjv]

These sins have been present at all times in all societies. Paul appears to be saying that in the "last days" these sins will be more pervasive than at other times in history.

The Greek word or words for each do not always match the English. Let us investigate.

23. 2 Timothy 3:2-4 List of sins
Verse route2 Timothy 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, [kjv]
Verse route3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, [kjv]
Verse route3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; [kjv]

As each sin is covered, note that the Greek meaning often does not match the English word. Try to think of those who have each attributed but are still followed as false teachers. The following might help. The more extreme (e.g., conservative, liberal, etc.) an organization is, the more these characteristics may be accepted within that organization.

24. 2 Timothy 3:2 Lovers of selves
Verse route2 Timothy 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, [kjv]
Verse routeεσονται γαρ οι ανθρωποι φιλαυτοι φιλαργυροι αλαζονες υπερηφανοι βλασφημοι γονευσιν απειθεις αχαριστοι ανοσιοι [gnt]

The ancient Greek word "φιλαυτοι""lovers of oneself" is a word used only here by Paul. The Greek for "lovers of their own selves" are those, literally, who have a "love of themselves".

The ancient Greek word "φίλος""that which is loved or important, friend" as in "Philadelphia" as "love of brothers" or "brotherly love".

The ancient Greek pronoun and word "αὐτός""it, self, same" and is the source of English words starting with prefix "auto" such as "automobile" (self-propelled car), "automatic", "autonomous", etc.

25. 2 Timothy 3:2 Covetous
Verse route2 Timothy 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, [kjv]
Verse routeεσονται γαρ οι ανθρωποι φιλαυτοι φιλαργυροι αλαζονες υπερηφανοι βλασφημοι γονευσιν απειθεις αχαριστοι ανοσιοι [gnt]

The ancient Greek word "φιλαργυρια""love of silver" and which is translated as "covertness" or "love of money" comes from two words.

The ancient Greek word "φίλος""that which is loved or important, friend" as in "Philadelphia" as "love of brothers" or "brotherly love". The ancient Greek word "ἄργυρος""silver".

Discuss: Since Jesus, have churches ever loved silver, gold, money, etc.? Provide some examples. Has this impacted how the church was run? Does this happen today?

26. 1 Timothy 6:10 Silver
Verse route1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. [kjv]
Verse routeριζα γαρ παντων των κακων εστιν η φιλαργυρια ης τινες ορεγομενοι απεπλανηθησαν απο της πιστεως και εαυτους περιεπειραν οδυναις πολλαις [gnt]

SilverThe ancient Greek word "φιλαργυρια""love of silver" and which is translated as "covertness" or "love of money" comes from "φίλος""that which is loved or important, friend" and "ἄργυρος""silver".
Discuss: Which is the root of all evil?

27. 2 Timothy 3:2 Know-it-alls
Verse route2 Timothy 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, [kjv]
Verse routeεσονται γαρ οι ανθρωποι φιλαυτοι φιλαργυροι αλαζονες υπερηφανοι βλασφημοι γονευσιν απειθεις αχαριστοι ανοσιοι [gnt]

The Greek for "boasters" is that of a "know it all". That is, a time when "opinion" takes precedence over actual "knowledge" of "reality", "logic", etc.

The ancient Greek word "ἀλαζονεία""pretense to superior knowledge or skill". This definition appears to be along the lines of what would later be called a "Gnostic". It appears to be similar to the English term "know it all".

Discuss: Would a "know it all" who is deceiving others with false truth ever call someone with real knowledge of the real truth a "know it all"?

28. A pretender to superior knowledge
Verse routeJames 4:16 But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil. [kjv]
Verse routeνυν δε καυχασθε εν ταις αλαζονειαις υμων πασα καυχησις τοιαυτη πονηρα εστιν [gnt]

Hello, my name is Know It AllThe ancient Greek word "ἀλαζονεία""pretense to superior knowledge or skill". This definition appears to be along the lines of what would later be called a "Gnostic". It appears to be similar to the English term "know it all".
The KJV usually translates this word as "boast" even though ancient Greek had a more common word for "boast", used 57 times in the GNT (Greek New Testament). This word appears to be onomatopoeic in that it sounds like what it describes. Interestingly, Jesus does not use either word in the Gospels nor in Revelation.

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29. 2 Timothy 3:2 Proud
Verse route2 Timothy 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, [kjv]
Verse routeεσονται γαρ οι ανθρωποι φιλαυτοι φιλαργυροι αλαζονες υπερηφανοι βλασφημοι γονευσιν απειθεις αχαριστοι ανοσιοι [gnt]

The ancient Greek word "ὑπερήφανος""overbearing, insolent, arrogant" and comes from two Greek words. A false teacher can give the appearance of light without actually having (true) light.

30. Philippians
In Philippians, Paul is taking the "bishops" to task for taking the church followers in directions not in line with the truth of Christ.

Verse routePhilippians 2:15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world; [kjv]
Verse routeινα γενησθε αμεμπτοι και ακεραιοι τεκνα θεου αμωμα μεσον γενεας σκολιας και διεστραμμενης εν οις φαινεσθε ως φωστηρες εν κοσμω [gnt]
Verse routequerellasimpliceslucetisluminariamundo [v]

Do those (bishops) in Philippi "shine" or do they only "appear"? The Latin word "luceo""shine" and is the basis for the English word "Lucifer", from the Greek, as "bearer of light" (albeit a false light). The Latin Vulgate appears to start the word slide. Whose "bright" idea was this?

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31. 2 Timothy 3:2 Blasphemers
Verse route2 Timothy 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, [kjv]
Verse routeεσονται γαρ οι ανθρωποι φιλαυτοι φιλαργυροι αλαζονες υπερηφανοι βλασφημοι γονευσιν απειθεις αχαριστοι ανοσιοι [gnt]

The Greek for "blasphemy" means, literally, "speaking bad" of something or someone and not necessarily in a religious context. This could be "bad mouthing". Those deceiving others may propose an oath to "protect the reputations" of group members - especially the leader.

One might think of someone who is always "complaining" about something as "speaking bad". One might think of the "pessimist" rather than the "optimist".

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32. 2 Timothy 3:2 Disobedient to parents
Verse route2 Timothy 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, [kjv]
Verse routeεσονται γαρ οι ανθρωποι φιλαυτοι φιλαργυροι αλαζονες υπερηφανοι βλασφημοι γονευσιν απειθεις αχαριστοι ανοσιοι [gnt]

"απειθής""disobedient" and means, literally "not persuaded" or "not believing"

"γονεύς""parent, ancestor". In general, the idea may be of a cultural heritage. Such a person would be "disobedient" or "not persuaded" or "not believing" to "ancestors" or "cultural heritage" as in "extended family".

The general idea is that of a rebellion against the family and/or culture. A modern phrase is the "breakdown of the family" as a cultural unit of importance.

33. 2 Timothy 3:2 Not thankful
Verse route2 Timothy 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, [kjv]
Verse routeεσονται γαρ οι ανθρωποι φιλαυτοι φιλαργυροι αλαζονες υπερηφανοι βλασφημοι γονευσιν απειθεις αχαριστοι ανοσιοι [gnt]

The ancient Greek word "ἀχάριστος""unthankful" as in, literally, "not a favor". The ancient Greek word "ευχάριστος""thankful" as in a "good favor" or "thank you". This word is the source, through Latin, of "Eucharist". Discuss: How "thankful" are people in modern times? How "unthankful" are people?

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34. 2 Timothy 3:2 Unholy
Verse route2 Timothy 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, [kjv]
Verse routeεσονται γαρ οι ανθρωποι φιλαυτοι φιλαργυροι αλαζονες υπερηφανοι βλασφημοι γονευσιν απειθεις αχαριστοι ανοσιοι [gnt]

The ancient Greek word "ἀνόσιος""without regard for anyone or anything" and usually refers to something considered by others as sacred or important.

Such a person might want the other side to have regard for them but they would not have any regard for anyone else.

35. 2 Timothy 3:2
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KJV: For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
Greek: εσονται γαρ οι ανθρωποι φιλαυτοι φιλαργυροι αλαζονες υπερηφανοι βλασφημοι γονευσιν απειθεις αχαριστοι ανοσιοι

36. 2 Timothy 3:3 Without natural affection
Paul's laundry list of sins in the "last days" continues to the next verse.
Verse route2 Timothy 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, [kjv]
Verse routeαστοργοι ασπονδοι διαβολοι ακρατεις ανημεροι αφιλαγαθοι [gnt]

The Greek for "without natural affection" uses one of the four Greek words for love as "motherly love" but in the negative. The ancient Greek word "στοργή""love, affection" as in a love of a mother for a child. This word does not appear in the GNT or LXX.

This idea of a female (good) vs. male (not good) appears in several verses in this chapter.

37. 2 Timothy 3:3 Truce breakers
Verse route2 Timothy 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, [kjv]
Verse routeαστοργοι ασπονδοι διαβολοι ακρατεις ανημεροι αφιλαγαθοι [gnt]

Such a person would observe a "cease fire" for themselves but might desire to call one to give themselves time to regroup, expecting the other side to abide by the rules.

38. 2 Timothy 3:3 False accusers
Verse route2 Timothy 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, [kjv]
Verse routeαστοργοι ασπονδοι διαβολοι ακρατεις ανημεροι αφιλαγαθοι [gnt]

The Greek for "false accusers" is that of an "accuser". The "false" is inferred.

The ancient Greek word "διάβολος""accuser" which is, literally, to "throw across" as a calque of the Hebrew "Satan" as "accuser".

Such a person would always be "accusing" the other side of something, perhaps, as a psychological projection, something they are already doing or plan to do.

The ""accuser"" is associated with "wind". Jesus can calm the "wind".

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39. 2 Timothy 3:3 Incontinent
Verse route2 Timothy 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, [kjv]
Verse routeαστοργοι ασπονδοι διαβολοι ακρατεις ανημεροι αφιλαγαθοι [gnt]

The Greek for "incontinent" is that of "without self-control" as in, literally, "not holding in" or "not restrained". The Greek for "control" or "power" in the word for "lack of control" is in the English word "democracy".

40. Democracy etymology
The apostles were put in the "public" or "common" prison.

Verse routeActs 5:18 And laid their hands on the apostles, and put them in the common prison. [kjv]
Verse routeκαι επεβαλον τας χειρας επι τους αποστολους και εθεντο αυτους εν τηρησει δημοσια [gnt]
Verse routepublica [v]

The word "democracy" comes from the ancient Greek word "δημοκρατία""people government" and comes from two Greek words. The Latin word "publicare""seize, make public".

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41. 2 Timothy 3:3 Fierce
Verse route2 Timothy 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, [kjv]
Verse routeαστοργοι ασπονδοι διαβολοι ακρατεις ανημεροι αφιλαγαθοι [gnt]

This word by Paul appears only here.

There could be a play on words with "‎ἡμέρᾱ""day, time" as in "not of the day".

42. 2 Timothy 3:3 Dispisers of good
Verse route2 Timothy 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, [kjv]
Verse routeαστοργοι ασπονδοι διαβολοι ακρατεις ανημεροι αφιλαγαθοι [gnt]

The Greek for "despisers of those that are good" is that of "not lovers of good".

Discuss: Will the day ever come when many will call "good" as "evil" and "evil" as "good"?

43. Hebrew word for evil
Verse routeIsaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter ! [kjv]
Verse routeלרערע … [he]
Verse routeουαι οι λεγοντες το πονηρον καλον και το καλον πονηρον οι τιθεντες το σκοτος φως και το φως σκοτος οι τιθεντες το πικρον γλυκυ και το γλυκυ πικρον [lxx]

רע - evil The Hebrew word "רע" (ra) ≈ "evil". Isaiah associates opposites as "evil" and "good", "darkness" and "light", "bitter" and "sweet".

Opposites
evil good
darkness light
bitter sweet
When one sees strange or unusual things in today's culture, a model that fits well is the following.
  • If the Bible or God says something is "right",
  • then those against the Bible or God
  • will do the "opposite" and
  • try to convince everyone that that is "right".


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44. 2 Timothy 3:3
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KJV: Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
Greek: αστοργοι ασπονδοι διαβολοι ακρατεις ανημεροι αφιλαγαθοι

45. 2 Timothy 3:4 Traitors
Paul continues the laundry list of sins in the "last days" to a third verse in the sequence.
Verse route2 Timothy 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; [kjv]
Verse routeπροδοται προπετεις τετυφωμενοι φιληδονοι μαλλον η φιλοθεοι [gnt]

The Greek for "traitors" has to do with those who "hand over". The Greek for "tradition" is related in that it is something "handed over" to descendants. Think of someone who has "betrayed your trust".

46. 2 Timothy 3:4 Heady
Verse route2 Timothy 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; [kjv]
Verse routeπροδοται προπετεις τετυφωμενοι φιληδονοι μαλλον η φιλοθεοι [gnt]

The Greek for "heady", literally "falling forwards", has to do with being "reckless". One who does this does not think of the consequences of their actions. Here are some related words. Going "beyond" this is the word often translated as "transgressions". The ancient Greek word "παράπτωσις""impetuous pursuit, going astray". The parts of the word mean, literally, going "beyond falling".

47. Matthew 6:14-15 Going astray in pursuit
Verse routeMatthew 6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: [kjv]
Verse routeεαν γαρ αφητε τοις ανθρωποις τα παραπτωματα αυτων αφησει και υμιν ο πατηρ υμων ο ουρανιος [gnt]
Verse route6:15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. [kjv]
Verse routeεαν δε μη αφητε τοις ανθρωποις τα παραπτωματα αυτων ουδε ο πατηρ υμων αφησει τα παραπτωματα υμων [gnt]

The word often translated as "trespass" is the ancient Greek word "παράπτωσις""impetuous pursuit, going astray". The parts of the word mean, literally, going "beyond falling" as in "fault" of imperfection. A general English phrase for this might be "stupid things" that are done (by you or others).

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48. 2 Timothy 3:4 High-minded
Verse route2 Timothy 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; [kjv]
Verse routeπροδοται προπετεις τετυφωμενοι φιληδονοι μαλλον η φιλοθεοι [gnt]

The Greek for "highminded" has to do with being "puffed up" or "deluded". Here are some related words. A different but similar word is "τυφλός""blind".

49. 2 Timothy 3:4 Lovers of pleasure
Verse route2 Timothy 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; [kjv]
Verse routeπροδοται προπετεις τετυφωμενοι φιληδονοι μαλλον η φιλοθεοι [gnt]

The Greek for "lovers of pleasures" has to do with being a "lover of hedonism" which is part of the philosophy of Epicurus.

50. Epicurus
Book: Epicurus
Epicurus (341-270 BC) was a Greek philosopher who, rejecting Plato's ideas, founded the movement called Epicureanism. These ideas are still popular today and preached in some churches.
Some pastors will preach on the great importance of having friends and make that part of their Bible teaching. It is hard to find Bible support for this idea.

Instead, one should "be a friend" as Jesus was, and not "need a friend".

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51. Acts 26:22 Epicureans
Verse routeActs 26:22 Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come: [kjv]
Verse routeεπικουριας ουν τυχων της απο του θεου αχρι της ημερας ταυτης εστηκα μικρω τε και μεγαλω ουδεν εκτος λεγων ων τε οι προφηται ελαλησαν μελλοντων γινεσθαι και μωυσης [gnt]

The ancient Greek word "ἐπικουρία""help, aid" and is used by Paul as a play on words of the Greek philosopher "Ἐπίκουρος ""Epicurus" (341-270 BC).

Did Paul first become a "friend" of those to whom he was "witnessing"?

52. With a little help from my friends
Written by John Lennon and Paul McCartney and sung by drummer Ringo Starr, the Beatles song "With a little help from my friends" was on the "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" album released on May 26, 1967.
It is not so much our friends' help that helps us, as the confidence of their help. Epicurus.

Consider Paul. No. Not Paul McCartney, but the Apostle Paul. What does Paul think of the "Epicurean" philosophy of having friends, anger management, etc.?

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53. 2 Timothy 3:4 Rather than
Verse route2 Timothy 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; [kjv]
Verse routeπροδοται προπετεις τετυφωμενοι φιληδονοι μαλλον η φιλοθεοι [gnt]

The Greek for "more than" is that of "rather" or "instead of".

The ancient Greek word "μᾶλλον""rather" as in "rather than". In a comparison, in context, it could be "rather more". The modern Greek word "μάλλον" (MAL-lon) ≈ "rather, more precisely".

54. 2 Timothy 3:4 Lovers of God
Verse route2 Timothy 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; [kjv]
Verse routeπροδοται προπετεις τετυφωμενοι φιληδονοι μαλλον η φιλοθεοι [gnt]

Paul appears to be making the following contrast. "rather than" Might this be a reference to ideas such as Christian Hedonism?

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55. 2 Timothy 3:4
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KJV: Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
Greek: προδοται προπετεις τετυφωμενοι φιληδονοι μαλλον η φιλοθεοι

56. Table
What is the common theme in these traits?

57. 2 Timothy 3:5 Form of godliness
Verse route2 Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. [kjv]
Verse routeεχοντες μορφωσιν ευσεβειας την δε δυναμιν αυτης ηρνημενοι και τουτους αποτρεπου [gnt]

The English word "form" is, through French, from the Latin word "forme""form, shape, appearance" which appears to be from the ancient Greek word "μορφή""shape, fashion, appearance".

The Greek for "godliness" has to do with a "good seriousness" is in the word "august".

58. Strongs - deny

59. Usage - deny
*G720 *33 ἀρνέομαι (ar-neh'-om-ahee) : perhaps from G1 (as a negative particle) and the middle voice of G4483; to contradict, i.e. disavow, reject, abnegate:--deny, refuse.
Word usage per chapter Words: αρνεισθαι αρνησαμενοι αρνησαμενος αρνησασθαι αρνησασθω αρνησεται αρνηση αρνησηται αρνησομαι αρνησομεθα αρνουμενοι=2 αρνουμενος=3 αρνουμενων αρνουνται ηρνειτο ηρνημενοι=1 ηρνησαντο ηρνησασθε=2 ηρνησατο=8 ηρνησω=2 ηρνηται


60. Acts 25:21 Appeal to Caesar
Verse routeActs 25:21 But when Paul had appealed to be reserved unto the hearing of Augustus, I commanded him to be kept till I might send him to Caesar. [kjv]
Verse routeτου δε παυλου επικαλεσαμενου τηρηθηναι αυτον εις την του σεβαστου διαγνωσιν εκελευσα τηρεισθαι αυτον εως ου αναπεμψω αυτον προς καισαρα [gnt]

Here «διαγωςσιν» is "hearing".

Note that the Vulgate "Augusti" and King James "Augustus" refer to Emperor at the birth of Jesus. The Greek, however, does not have this word - but it might be inferred from the word «σεβαστου» for "respected". The Luther German has "Kaisers" for "Caesar" which is the origin of the German word "Kaiser".

All versions have "Caesar" at the end of the verse.

61. Sevastopol
Sevastopol: Late 18th century. From Ukrainian Севасто́поль (Sevastópolʹ) and Russian Севасто́поль (Sevastópolʹ), from Ancient Greek Σεβαστόπολις (Sebastópolis) from σεβαστός (sebastós, “august”) + πόλις (pólis, “city”), probably after Empress (=Augusta) Catherine II of Russia. Wiktionary: 2022-12-15


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62. 2 Timothy 3:5 Power
Verse route2 Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. [kjv]
Verse routeεχοντες μορφωσιν ευσεβειας την δε δυναμιν αυτης ηρνημενοι και τουτους αποτρεπου [gnt]

The Greek for "power" has to do with "potentiality".

Those people "deny" the "potential" of what Christ can do.

Do we see this today? Do churches have a "form" or "pretense" of "holiness" or "seriousness" but "deny" or "reject" the "potential" of Christ?

63. 2 Timothy 3:5 Turn away
Verse route2 Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. [kjv]
Verse routeεχοντες μορφωσιν ευσεβειας την δε δυναμιν αυτης ηρνημενοι και τουτους αποτρεπου [gnt]

The ancient Greek word "τρέπω""turn, change, rotate".
The ancient Greek word "απο""away from" with a sense of distance set apart. That is, do not just "turn away" but create some distance as in "social distancing".

64. 2 Timothy 3:5
 All 
KJV: Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
Greek: εχοντες μορφωσιν ευσεβειας την δε δυναμιν αυτης ηρνημενοι και τουτους αποτρεπου

65. 2 Timothy 3:6 This sort
Verse route2 Timothy 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, [kjv]
Verse routeεκ τουτων γαρ εισιν οι ενδυνοντες εις τας οικιας και αιχμαλωτιζοντες γυναικαρια σεσωρευμενα αμαρτιαις αγομενα επιθυμιαις ποικιλαις [gnt]
Verse routeex his enimpenetrant domoscaptivasmulierculas oneratasdesideriis [v]

This phrase is somewhat ambiguous in that these people are as have all or just some of the listed traits.

66. 2 Timothy 3:6 Time of season
Verse route2 Timothy 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, [kjv]
Verse routeεκ τουτων γαρ εισιν οι ενδυνοντες εις τας οικιας και αιχμαλωτιζοντες γυναικαρια σεσωρευμενα αμαρτιαις αγομενα επιθυμιαις ποικιλαις [gnt]
Verse routeex his enimpenetrant domoscaptivasmulierculas oneratasdesideriis [v]


67. 2 Timothy 3:6 Silly women
Verse route2 Timothy 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, [kjv]
Verse routeεκ τουτων γαρ εισιν οι ενδυνοντες εις τας οικιας και αιχμαλωτιζοντες γυναικαρια σεσωρευμενα αμαρτιαις αγομενα επιθυμιαις ποικιλαις [gnt]
Verse routeex his enimpenetrant domoscaptivasmulierculas oneratasdesideriis [v]

Paul appears to make up the word the ancient Greek word "γυναικαρία""women's time/season" (diminutive ending). The Latin word "muliercula""little woman, common working girl". The "silly" appears to have been added from the Latin into English. Then, "silly" changed meaning over the years, from "lucky" to "innocent" to "naive" to "foolish".

68. 2 Timothy 3:6 Silly women
Verse route2 Timothy 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, [kjv]
Verse routeεκ τουτων γαρ εισιν οι ενδυνοντες εις τας οικιας και αιχμαλωτιζοντες γυναικαρια σεσωρευμενα αμαρτιαις αγομενα επιθυμιαις ποικιλαις [gnt]
Verse routeex his enimpenetrant domoscaptivasmulierculas oneratasdesideriis [v]

Using the Greek odd and even ideas: Do you see any connection here? Could the "women" (complete) refer by analogy to new believers? Could the "men" (lacking) refer by analogy to false teachers?

69. 2 Timothy 3:6 Play on words
Verse route2 Timothy 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, [kjv]
Verse routeεκ τουτων γαρ εισιν οι ενδυνοντες εις τας οικιας και αιχμαλωτιζοντες γυναικαρια σεσωρευμενα αμαρτιαις αγομενα επιθυμιαις ποικιλαις [gnt]
Verse routeex his enimpenetrant domoscaptivasmulierculas oneratasdesideriis [v]

The Greek for "creep" is that of "putting on an outer garment" which, in effect, causes one to "withdraw" under/behind that garment. Think of a "wolf" in "sheep's" "clothing". The ancient Greek word "ἐνδύνω""get into, put on (clothes)" and comes from two Greek words. The Latin word "penetro""enter, penetrate" and is the source of the English word "penetrate".

70. Clothing
Verse route2 Timothy 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, [kjv]
Verse routeεκ τουτων γαρ εισιν οι ενδυνοντες εις τας οικιας και αιχμαλωτιζοντες γυναικαρια σεσωρευμενα αμαρτιαις αγομενα επιθυμιαις ποικιλαις [gnt]
Verse routeex his enimpenetrant domoscaptivasmulierculas oneratasdesideriis [v]

The root is the same. The ending is different for verb (above) and noun (below).
Verse routeMatthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. [kjv]
Verse routeπροσεχετε απο των ψευδοπροφητων οιτινες ερχονται προς υμας εν ενδυμασιν προβατων εσωθεν δε εισιν λυκοι αρπαγες [gnt]
Verse routefalsis prophetisvestimentis oviumlupi rapaces [v]



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71. 2 Timothy 3:6 Captivate
Verse route2 Timothy 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, [kjv]
Verse routeεκ τουτων γαρ εισιν οι ενδυνοντες εις τας οικιας και αιχμαλωτιζοντες γυναικαρια σεσωρευμενα αμαρτιαις αγομενα επιθυμιαις ποικιλαις [gnt]
Verse routeex his enimpenetrant domoscaptivasmulierculas oneratasdesideriis [v]

The "captive" as in "making captive" might be thought of as the English word "captivate".

These "false teachers", as a wolf in sheep's "clothing" will "captivate" this group, as in a "house" built on sand. Those sheep as in some of the church as a "bride" might be "laden" with sin and guilt, but, due to false teaching such as, for example, Christian Hedonism, those sheep might be led away by other "desires" such as happiness.

72. Strongs - captivate

73. Usage - captivate
*G163 *4 αἰχμαλωτίζω (aheekh-mal-o-tid'-zo) : from G164; to make captive:--lead away captive, bring into captivity.
Word usage per chapter Words: αιχμαλωτιζοντα αιχμαλωτιζοντες=2 αιχμαλωτισθησονται

Paul uses this word, here and elsewhere, in the figurative sense of being "captivated" mentally and not physically.

74. Captive thoughts
Verse routeRomans 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. [kjv]
Verse routeβλεπω δε ετερον νομον εν τοις μελεσιν μου αντιστρατευομενον τω νομω του νοος μου και αιχμαλωτιζοντα με εν τω νομω της αμαρτιας τω οντι εν τοις μελεσιν μου [gnt]
Verse routealiammembrismentiscaptivantemmembris … [v]

Verse route2 Corinthians 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; [kjv]
Verse routeλογισμους καθαιρουντες και παν υψωμα επαιρομενον κατα της γνωσεως του θεου και αιχμαλωτιζοντες παν νοημα εις την υπακοην του χριστου [gnt]
Verse routecaptivitatemintellectum … [v]


75. Romans 7:23
   Romans 7:23 
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KJV: But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
Greek: βλεπω δε ετερον νομον εν τοις μελεσιν μου αντιστρατευομενον τω νομω του νοος μου και αιχμαλωτιζοντα με εν τω νομω της αμαρτιας τω οντι εν τοις μελεσιν μου
Latin: video autem aliam legem in membris meis repugnantem legi mentis meae et captivantem me in lege peccati quae est in membris meis

76. 2 Corinthians 10:5
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KJV: Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
Greek: λογισμους καθαιρουντες και παν υψωμα επαιρομενον κατα της γνωσεως του θεου και αιχμαλωτιζοντες παν νοημα εις την υπακοην του χριστου
Latin: et omnem altitudinem extollentem se adversus scientiam Dei et in captivitatem redigentes omnem intellectum in obsequium Christi

77. 2 Timothy 3:6 Heap of words
Paul uses a made-up word for "heap on" or "pile on". Paul uses this word again in chapter 4.
Verse route2 Timothy 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, [kjv]
Verse routeεκ τουτων γαρ εισιν οι ενδυνοντες εις τας οικιας και αιχμαλωτιζοντες γυναικαρια σεσωρευμενα αμαρτιαις αγομενα επιθυμιαις ποικιλαις [gnt]
Verse routeex his enimpenetrant domoscaptivasmulierculas oneratasdesideriis [v]

The prefix «σε» an in "heaped" with sins might be a setup for the play on words with the "house" being a "coffin" and setting up the later play on words. That "heap" or "coffin" might relate to a "house" built on sand.

78. 2 Timothy 3:6-7 Learning
Verse route2 Timothy 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, [kjv]
Verse routeεκ τουτων γαρ εισιν οι ενδυνοντες εις τας οικιας και αιχμαλωτιζοντες γυναικαρια σεσωρευμενα αμαρτιαις αγομενα επιθυμιαις ποικιλαις [gnt]
Verse route3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. [kjv]
Verse routeπαντοτε μανθανοντα και μηδεποτε εις επιγνωσιν αληθειας ελθειν δυναμενα [gnt]

The focus appears to not be on women but on those who might "withdraw" or "creep" into "houses", as would a wolf in sheep's "clothing", to do certain "teaching" to anyone in the "house".

An analogy is that of a "consultant" whose primary goal is to extend the consulting contract. If the "truth" or "reality" were actually learned, that consultant might be out of a job.

79. Prisoners
The best way to keep a prisoner from escaping is to make sure he never knows he's in prison. Fyodor Dostoevsky (1821-1881), author of Crime and punishment.

Russian: Фёдор Михайлович Достоевский (1821-1881)
Analogy: The best way to keep people separated (rooted up, loosed, judged) from the love of Christ is to not let them know they have separated themselves from the love of Christ. One way: Convince the people that nothing can separate them from the love of Christ. Therefore, they do not need to worry about anything.

Many are "happy" in the "abyss", "pit", "ditch", "wide area" as in better together, all in the same boat/vote, etc.

Human beings are born with different capacities. If they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free. Alexander Solzhenitsyn.

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80. Silly love songs
Verse route2 Timothy 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, [kjv]
Verse routeεκ τουτων γαρ εισιν οι ενδυνοντες εις τας οικιας και αιχμαλωτιζοντες γυναικαρια σεσωρευμενα αμαρτιαις αγομενα επιθυμιαις ποικιλαις [gnt]

Music: Silly Love Songs Wings
Speaking of "silly" "women" in "houses", some churches want to fill the world with "silly love songs". They say, as the song says, "and what's wrong with that?".

81. Wolves and sheep

82. 2 Timothy 3:6-7 Led away
Verse route2 Timothy 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, [kjv]
Verse routeεκ τουτων γαρ εισιν οι ενδυνοντες εις τας οικιας και αιχμαλωτιζοντες γυναικαρια σεσωρευμενα αμαρτιαις αγομενα επιθυμιαις ποικιλαις [gnt]
Verse route3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. [kjv]
Verse routeπαντοτε μανθανοντα και μηδεποτε εις επιγνωσιν αληθειας ελθειν δυναμενα [gnt]

Who are those being "led away"? In Greek, the rules for a plural for a group (as in Spanish and many other languages is as follows).

83. 2 Timothy 3:6-7 Led away
Verse route2 Timothy 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, [kjv]
Verse routeεκ τουτων γαρ εισιν οι ενδυνοντες εις τας οικιας και αιχμαλωτιζοντες γυναικαρια σεσωρευμενα αμαρτιαις αγομενα επιθυμιαις ποικιλαις [gnt]
Verse route3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. [kjv]
Verse routeπαντοτε μανθανοντα και μηδεποτε εις επιγνωσιν αληθειας ελθειν δυναμενα [gnt]

It is not clear if and how this rule might apply in these verses. In the analogy Paul is making, the following apply.

84. 2 Timothy 3:7 Learning and reader response
Verse route2 Timothy 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. [kjv]
Verse routeπαντοτε μανθανοντα και μηδεποτε εις επιγνωσιν αληθειας ελθειν δυναμενα [gnt]

Can one "learn" if one "teaches" oneself? That is an idea of reader response. One hears pastors sometimes say or pray the following. Discuss: How might this statement be ambiguous? Does it relate to reader response? How is this different from the disciples saying to the Lord, Lord, teach us to pray..

This brings to mind the "Meno paradox" as when Thomas in John 14 says "How do we know the way when we do not where you are going.".

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85. Meno paradox
A problem in Greek philosophy was that of "knowing" and attaining "knowledge". From Plato, here is a concise and brief formulation of Meno's Paradox.
The underlying assumption is that either you know what you are looking for or you do not know what you are looking for. There is a bit of "sophistic" deception going on here, but it can be difficult to identify.

Thomas: "How do we know the way when we do not where you are going.".

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86. 2 Timothy 3:8
Verse route2 Timothy 3:8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. [kjv]
Verse routeον τροπον δε ιαννης και ιαμβρης αντεστησαν μωυσει ουτως και ουτοι ανθιστανται τη αληθεια ανθρωποι κατεφθαρμενοι τον νουν αδοκιμοι περι την πιστιν [gnt]
Verse routemente reprobi … [v]

The ancient Greek word "νους""mind". The Latin word "mente""mind" and is the source of the English word "mental".

The Latin word "reprobus""false, spurious, rejected" and is the source of the English word "reprobate" with the meaning of an unprincipled or depraved.

The ancient Greek word "αδόκιμος""unapproved, discredited" and comes from the negation of "δοκέω""think, expect". The modern Greek word "αδόκιμος" (a-THO-kee-mos) ≈ "unidiomatic, inappropriate".

87. Strongs - reprobate

88. Usage - reprobate
*G96 *8 ἀδόκιμος (ad-ok'-ee-mos) : from G1 (as a negative particle) and G1384; unapproved, i.e. rejected; by implication, worthless (literally or morally):--castaway, rejected, reprobate.
Word usage per chapter Words: αδοκιμοι=5 αδοκιμον αδοκιμος=2


89. 2 Timothy 3:8
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KJV: Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
Greek: ον τροπον δε ιαννης και ιαμβρης αντεστησαν μωυσει ουτως και ουτοι ανθιστανται τη αληθεια ανθρωποι κατεφθαρμενοι τον νουν αδοκιμοι περι την πιστιν
Latin: quemadmodum autem Iannes et Mambres restiterunt Mosi ita et hii resistunt veritati homines corrupti mente reprobi circa fidem

90. 2 Timothy 3:9
Verse route2 Timothy 3:9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was. [kjv]
Verse routeαλλ ου προκοψουσιν επι πλειον η γαρ ανοια αυτων εκδηλος εσται πασιν ως και η εκεινων εγενετο [gnt]
Verse routeproficient insipientiamanifesta … [v]

Who is "they"?

The Greek for "manifest" is that of "obvious".

"προκόπτω""progress, thrive, succeed" and comes from "κόπτω""cut" as in "cut forward".

91. Strongs - advance

92. Usage - advance
*G4298 *6 προκόπτω (prok-op'-to) : from G4253 and G2875; to drive forward (as if by beating), i.e. (figuratively and intransitively) to advance (in amount, to grow; in time, to be well along):--increase, proceed, profit, be far spent, wax.
Word usage per chapter Words: προεκοπτεν προεκοπτον προεκοψεν προκοψουσιν=3


93. 2 Timothy 3:9
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KJV: But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.
Greek: αλλ ου προκοψουσιν επι πλειον η γαρ ανοια αυτων εκδηλος εσται πασιν ως και η εκεινων εγενετο
Latin: sed ultra non proficient insipientia enim eorum manifesta erit omnibus sicut et illorum fuit

94. 2 Timothy 3:10
Verse route2 Timothy 3:10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience, [kjv]
Verse routeσυ δε παρηκολουθησας μου τη διδασκαλια τη αγωγη τη προθεσει τη πιστει τη μακροθυμια τη αγαπη τη υπομονη [gnt]

The teaching of Paul is not as those described in the "house".

The Greek for "fully known" is that of, literally, "beyond following".

95. 2 Timothy 3:10
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KJV: But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,
Greek: συ δε παρηκολουθηκας παρηκολουθησας μου τη διδασκαλια τη αγωγη τη προθεσει τη πιστει τη μακροθυμια τη αγαπη τη υπομονη

96. 2 Timothy 3:11
Verse route2 Timothy 3:11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me. [kjv]
Verse routeτοις διωγμοις τοις παθημασιν οια μοι εγενετο εν αντιοχεια εν ικονιω εν λυστροις οιους διωγμους υπηνεγκα και εκ παντων με ερρυσατο ο κυριος [gnt]
Verse routepersecutiones passionespersecutiones … [v]

The Greek for "persecute" is that of "pursuit". In context, this was usually "persecution" and effected the meaning going forward in time.

The Greek for "afflictions" is that of being "passive". Being "passive" often results in "pain" and "afflictions".

97. Philippians 3:6,14 Pursing persecution
The ancient Greek word "διώκω""pursue" in the sense of "going after" or, in context, "persecuting". The Greek word "blameless" is "without spots".
Verse routePhilippians 3:6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless. [kjv]
Verse routeκατα ζηλος διωκων την εκκλησιαν κατα δικαιοσυνην την εν νομω γενομενος αμεμπτος [gnt]

Paul was "pursuing" in the wrong direction in a "physical" way according to man's "righteousness". The Greek for "zeal" is that of "competing with others for the same goal".

Paul is now "pursuing" (same word) in the right direction in a "non-physical" way.
Verse route3:14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. [kjv]
Verse routeκατα σκοπον διωκω εις το βραβειον της ανω κλησεως του θεου εν χριστω ιησου [gnt]



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98. 2 Timothy 3:11
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KJV: Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
Greek: τοις διωγμοις τοις παθημασιν οια μοι εγενετο εν αντιοχεια εν ικονιω εν λυστροις οιους διωγμους υπηνεγκα και εκ παντων με ερρυσατο ο κυριος
Latin: persecutiones passiones qualia mihi facta sunt Antiochiae Iconii Lystris quales persecutiones sustinui et ex omnibus me eripuit Dominus

99. 2 Timothy 3:12
Verse route2 Timothy 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. [kjv]
Verse routeκαι παντες δε οι θελοντες ζην ευσεβως εν χριστω ιησου διωχθησονται [gnt]
Verse routepiepersecutionem patientur [v]

The Greek for "godly" is, as before, that of being "august" or "pious".

The Latin word "patientur""patient" is the source of the English word "patient".

100. 2 Timothy 3:12
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KJV: Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
Greek: και παντες δε οι θελοντες ευσεβως ζην ευσεβως εν χριστω ιησου διωχθησονται
Latin: et omnes qui volunt pie vivere in Christo Iesu persecutionem patientur

101. 2 Timothy 3:1,4-7 Review
Verse route2 Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. [kjv]

Verses 2-3: 15 words describing men. Verse 4 has 5, the last 2 a comparison.
Verse route3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; [kjv]
Verse routeπροδοται προπετεις τετυφωμενοι φιληδονοι μαλλον η φιλοθεοι [gnt]

Verse route3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. [kjv]

Verse route3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, [kjv]

Verse route3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. [kjv]


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